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Mystery over Dutch WW2 shipwrecks vanished from Java Sea bed - BBC News

Mystery over Dutch WW2 shipwrecks vanished from Java Sea bed
  • 6 hours ago
  • From the sectionAsia
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Image copyrightNETHERLANDS INSTITUTE OF MILITARY HISTORY
Image captionHNLMS De Ruyter with 345 men on board was the flagship of Dutch Rear-Admiral Karel Doorman
Three Dutch World War Two ships considered war graves have vanished from the bottom of the Java Sea, the Dutch defence ministry says.

All three were sunk by the Japanese during the Battle of the Java Sea in 1942, and their wrecks were discovered by divers in 2002.

A report in the Guardian says three British ships have disappeared as well.

The British government says it is "distressed" by the reports and is investigating.

A new expedition to mark next year's 75th anniversary of the battle found the wrecks missing.

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The Guardian says it has seen 3D images, showing large holes in the seabed where HMS Exeter, HMS Encounter, the destroyer HMS Electra, as well as a US submarine, used to be.

Experts say salvaging the wrecks would have been a huge operation.

The Dutch defence ministry is to investigate the mysterious disappearance.

In a statement, it said that two of its ships had completely gone, with sonar images only showing imprints, while large parts of a third ship, a destroyer, were missing.

"The desecration of a war grave is a serious offence," the ministry said.

The UK's Ministry of Defence confirmed that it had contacted the Indonesian authorities.

An MOD spokesperson said, "Many lives were lost during this battle and we would expect that these sites are respected and left undisturbed without the express consent of the United Kingdom."

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Theo Doorman, 82, son of legendary Rear Admiral Karel Doorman, who led the battle, was on the expedition which hoped to film the wrecks two weeks ago.

He said he could not believe his eyes when the sonar images came in, showing only a groove where his father's ship had been.

"I was sad," he said.

"Not angry. That doesn't get you anywhere. But sad. For centuries is was a custom not to disturb sailors' graves. But it did happen here."

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Image copyrightNETHERLANDS INSTITUTE OF MILITARY HISTORY
The Battle of the Java Sea
  • 27 February 1942
  • Allied action to stop Japanese Navy
  • Dutch, British, Australian, US forces ships involved
  • Five cruisers and nine destroyers involved, Led by Rear-Admiral Karel Doorman
  • Only two ships remained
  • Vanished ships are HNLMS De Ruyter, HNLMS Java, and HNLMS Kortenaer
  • Defeat led to the Japanese occupation of the Dutch East Indies (now Indonesia)
The seas around Indonesia, Singapore and Malaysia are a graveyard for hundreds of ships and submarines sunk during the war.

Illegal salvaging of the wrecks for steel, aluminium and brass has become commonplace.

But the three missing wrecks were located 100km (60 miles) off the coast of Indonesia, at a depth of 70m. Salvage operators say it would not be easy to lift them.

"It is almost impossible to salvage this," Paul Koole of the salvage film Mammoet told the Algemeen Dagblad. "It is far too deep."

Experts say the operation would have needed large cranes for long periods of time and would be unlikely to have gone unnoticed.

The Indonesian Navy, when contacted by the BBC, said they were unaware of the disappearance but said they would investigate.

"To say that the wreckage had gone suddenly, doesn't make sense," Navy spokesman Colonel Gig Sipasulta said. "It is underwater activities that can take months even years."

The Dutch authorities have also notified the other countries that formed part of the international expedition: the UK, Australia and the US.
 
Salvage of the WWII wrecks in the Java Sea

Guys .... here is a link to a post I put up on my facebook site regarding the salvage of the WWII wrecks over there.

Wreck salvage link

This is not just salvage its a total pick up and go job - mind blowing stuff.

The scuttle-buck is that the steel being pre-nuclear is worth a lot for testing reasons but who knows ???

regards Baz
 
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they were just pulled out in pieces from the bottom and sold for the steel, just plain corruption, nothing new in ASIA, specially in Indonesia, the pieces of ship were send to the Surubaya port and sold for steel.

This have government people behind it, that allowed this to happen, it was a big operation with cranes, big barges and divers.
 
wow....strange.
 
how does an operation that size go unnoticed?
 
Plomo o Plata

or the equivalent expression in Bahasa Indonesia.
 
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