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RJP

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Was doing the pool session for my PADI Dry Suit class the other day - with an LDS/instructor that I've not trained with before.

The instructor really challenged me in the pool. In a good way. Didn't let me get away with anything as being "close enough." I think I'm gonna like him as an instructor as I'm a big fan of constructive criticism and not settling for "good enough" especially when it comes to things that could have me or someone else end up dead.

The best lesson of the day though hit my like a 2x4 between the eyes:

I was doing the neutral hover skill in my dry suit, when out of the blue the instructor starts giving me what I initially thought was an "out of air" signal, but I couldn't figure out why.

I assumed he wanted me to "stop hovering" and was giving me the "cut" sign. I sort of stared at him for another second and then shrugged.

He then looked panicked and started doing the "cut" sign even more frantically. I'm figuring "I must be doing something horribly wrong in this neutral hover."

I stared some more and then gave him an "I don't understand what you want me to do" look, and signalled "thumbs up" and "chat" sign to ascend and talk.

Long story short - was the first time in my short diving career where I had gotten the "OOA" signal that WASN'T preceeded by an instructor saying "OK, we'll descend and I'll give you the OOA signal, and then you give me your regulator..."

We surfaced and the instructor smiled and said "What the hell was that?"

ME: "Sorry, I didn't know we were gonna do an OOA drill."

HE: "In the real world you never WILL know, and it won't be a DRILL when it happens."

ME: "@#$%, you're RIGHT!"

Lesson learned: There are certain things that just have to be spinal cord level reflex: don't think, just do.

The fact that he's an instructor doesn't matter.
The fact that I'm a student doesn't matter.
The fact that we were in a pool doesn't matter.
The fact that we were in a class doesn't matter.
The fact that we didn't discuss doing an OOA drill doesn't matter.

The only fact that DOES matter:

I got an OOA signal from another diver - possibly the most critical situation underwater - and I just stared at him, wondering what he was doing.

Now I ask each of you to be honest with yourself: What would YOU have done?

No need to answer here - I'm not looking for a "I'm-a-better-diver-than-thou" debate.

However, if you think you would have reacted in a split-second, then ask yourself if - during that split second BEFORE you reacted - you'd have been thinking "Why is he doing an OOA drill in a Dry Suit class?"

Is that reaction much better than mine?

Don't think, just do.

I'd like to think my reaction would have been different if we were on a "real dive" - and I'm pretty sure that after this lesson it WILL be - but I hope none of us ever have to find out for sure.

Ray - a safer diver today than I was yesterday!
 
switch to my back-up and hand him my primary, look him in the eyes, lock arms, give him the OK sign, then the ascend sign.

When I drive down the road and see somebody with a dive sticker on their vehicle, I give them the low on air signal, haven't gotten much response back though. :D
 
Good Class.
 
As a newbie still finishing my pool sessions I really appreciate you posting this. As I read what you experienced it came to me that I would have done the exact same thing. Even though I try to get into a "real dive" mind set when I'm doing skills I can see that I often don't look at things in the way one should. I need to remember that anytime you are under water you ARE in a "real dive" situation!

Thanks again. I learn so much from people on this board.
 
dlndavid:
When I drive down the road and see somebody with a dive sticker on their vehicle, I give them the low on air signal, haven't gotten much response back though. :D
Maybe they think you're trying to give them the 1 finger salute. Try giving them an "OK" sign.
 
I have to admit, that I have never been in a situation where someone gave me the OOA sign in real life. My closest example was with me, when I lost my reg when it came loose from my mouthpiece. But I had air. I just hope I know how to react when it does happen. I bet many people wouldn't even bother with the hand signels, they would just grab at your regulator. I hope I know how to react to that too. I'm sure you did react different because you were with an instructor in a class situation. But it IS a good thing to contemplate.
 
fairybasslet:
Maybe they think you're trying to give them the 1 finger salute. Try giving them an "OK" sign.
low on air is not the middle finger, but I salute you :D
 
I read your post and I had to laugh. It reminded me of my Fundies class, where I gave the OOA signal to a fellow student and he just stared at me -- and this was a prearranged drill which had just been signalled by the instructor!

I've been guilty of the same thing, even though I practice these drills all the time. The last dive I did with my Fundies instructor, he threw an OOA at me while I was trying to fix my other buddy's backup light. He said it was really funny to watch the "deer in the headlights" look that preceded comprehension and completion of the drill.

I'm trying to teach myself that, if somebody's light begins waving, I deploy that regulator BEFORE I stop and think about what's going on. If they aren't OOA, no big deal. If they are, then I did the right thing.

Sounds like a good instructor!
 
Dean810:
I have to admit, that I have never been in a situation where someone gave me the OOA sign in real life.
I gave my buddy the OOA signal once. She donated as desired and then I gave her the OK and continued with the dive using her air. I use air faster than she so I thought that maybe I could help her to use hers before mine got low enough to require surfacing. I only got away with it once. :D I learned this little technique from my instructors, a married couple. In fact he has now cried wolf enough that now the only response he gets is a little obscene. Best not to over use this little scam. (Lest you all freak out, I pulled the scam at the end of the dive as we were swimming in fifteen feet of water on the way back to the dock.)
 
RJP3:
Ray - a safer diver today than I was yesterday!

yup, and that's what counts

i have left my buddy (really my cave instructor) in the cave twice. wanted to die
first time. swore it would never happen again.

then, after three (count them, three) groups converged on the tie-off point,
i made sure i identified my instructor, got him in front of me, and started
reeling the line in.

when we got to the 20-foot opening, i realized the guy in front of me wasn't
my instructor. it was some other guy with white hair and a beard.

it was painful

:11doh:
 

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