From Suunto to Uwatec

[FrediSub]

Recently I've switched my dive computer from a Suunto to an Uwatec.

Somebody knows how to import the dives from Dive Manager 1.6 to Smarttrak? If it is possible at all!

Thanks!

 

[KrisB]

If switching is not immediately apparent using import/export functionality, you could try upgrading to SDM 2.1.4, which offers different export functionality.

Just one other thing -- why the heck would you switch?

 

[FrediSub]

If switching is not immediately apparent using import/export functionality, you could try upgrading to SDM 2.1.4, which offers different export functionality.

Just one other thing -- why the heck would you switch?

Thanks for the advice! Unfortunately Smarttrak only imports from his very own formats..., will try SDM 2.1.4 but I doubt that SDM export to any Uwatec format...

I've found my Mosquito very restrictive on sucessive dives and I want a computer with gauge mode, so I've changed the Mosquito to an Aladin TEC. I was told that Uwatec computers were less conservative than Suunto computers and the Aladin has an infrared port that is very convenient when travel with a PDA.

Other than that, the Mosquito is a good dive computer.

Thanks!

 

[KrisB]

Well, here's the list of format SDM will export:
- Suunto Dive Export file (SDE)
- Dive Log 7 Standard File (ZXU)
- Comma Separated Variable (CSV)
- DL7 File (ZXL)

I understand that the Uwatec computers are less conservative... I guess I just don't understand why people are pushing for that -- if a computer is less conservative, it is also less safe!

Also, does the mosquito not have a gauge mode? The Vyper and Cobra both do... that's why it surprises me.

HTH,

 

[Mark Goodchild]

I've used the following tool to import both sets of data together. I have gone from UWATEC format to Suunto.

Actually I wanted to go the other way but I've decided just to stick with this tool.

http://www.zerovisibility.co.uk/Scubase.htm

Have a look and there is an evaluation version available so you can test before you buy!

Hope this helps.

 

[FrediSub]

I understand that the Uwatec computers are less conservative... I guess I just don't understand why people are pushing for that -- if a computer is less conservative, it is also less safe!

Also, does the mosquito not have a gauge mode? The Vyper and Cobra both do... that's why it surprises me.

I don't think less conservative = less safe. If you go with your car at 70mph instead of 80mph it doesn't mean that you are more safe, it means that you are going more slowly, nothing more! Anyway with the Aladin TEC you can activate a 'Micro Bubble' algorithm (5 levels I think) that make deep stops and according to Uwatec the dive computer is much more safer.

Anyway, most of my dive buddies have Aladin computers, so it seems to me more convenient to have similar dive computers.

The Mosquito doesn't have a gauge mode, instead it has an 'apnea mode' that stops at 5min... not useful for me.

With the Aladin I have a gauge mode, a less conservative computer for sucessive dives if I want, integrated IR port for PC/PDA/Mac sync, same dive algorithm that my dive buddies and for less money (here in Europe) than a Mosquito with his PC interface (or without it!). I think that is a good computer for me at this time.

I will investigate Scubase, good advice thanks!

 

[leadweight]

I have seen statements in Rodale's to the effect that while dive computers have become more conservative as new models come out, the accident rate has not changed. Many accidents were attributed to fast ascents. Must be the less conservative computers are just as safe.

 

[KrisB]

I have seen statements in Rodale's to the effect that while dive computers have become more conservative as new models come out, the accident rate has not changed. Many accidents were attributed to fast ascents. Must be the less conservative computers are just as safe.

Right... but we all know who pays Rodale's bills.

On the note of the speed analogy -- most people would have you believe that 70mph *is* safer than 80mph... unless you use it to justify complacency. The slower speed gives you more time to stop, but if you use the slower speed as an excuse to have your head turned more often, it doesn't help!

Additionally, I think it's important to look at the safety factor from a different side. A few points that seem to ring true with the training given:

- the safest dive you can do never leaves the surface
- a short dive is safer than a long dive
- a shallow dive is safer than a deep dive
- a slow ascent is safer than a fast ascent
- a long surface interval is safer than a short surface interval

So, a less conservative (aka more liberal) computer will let you dive longer and deeper with fewer reprecussions... seems less safe to me.

 

[Divesherpa]

If you factor in that computers are programmed to keep a 70 year old lady who is 259 pounds from getting bent, even the most liberal, you are probably gonna be OK

Sorry if I offended any 70 YO ladies who have an eating disorder, but you get my point.

Cheers and safe diving,
Jamie

 

[Divesherpa]

How do you like the computer? I ordered one, but the shop had to sell it to someone else. Mine should be here in a few days. I can't wait to try it.

Cheers,
Jamie