First two OW certification dives [LONG]

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Z06Boricua

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Hey guys,

I recently had my first two OW dives this past Saturday, and I must say that while it was generally fun overall, there were some not so fun aspects of it. My wife and I are getting certified together in Kuwait and our OW dives are in the Persian Gulf. We went out on the boat and I brought my newly purchased, lightly used Halcyon BP/W and Atomic reg with 7' hose along with the wife's brand new Oceanic reg setup. There was a problem with the Oceanic Hera we bought her and are waiting on a replacement from ST.

When we got on the boat, out instructor wanted to see everything we had, and decided that he did not want me using my BP/W as it would "mess up my buoyancy control", and he didn't feel comfortable with me using my Atomic reg/octo because of the long hose (OOA exercises). While I wasn't that comfortable using ill-maintained rental gear in OW, I was OK with it because it was just a quick check-out dive. What bugged me more than anything was that he didn't want my wife using her new Oceanic reg because "normally, shops don't connect your octo, BC inflator, and console to your 1st stage" and he wanted to "check everything out first". I explained to him that ST does connect everything for you as a free service, and that they're an authorized service center, but he didn't want to hear it. No problem, she dove with rental gear as well.

During our first dive, my wife was fighting her BCD as it was not fitting her well at all, and her weight belt was off center, so she was constantly fighting to keep from listing to the right underwater. The current was pretty strong and visibility was probably around 2-4ft. I ended up with lots of equalization issues, and it took me forever to reach the bottom. No matter what, I would feel tons of ear squeeze at the slightest descent, no more than a foot or two. The nose pinch wasn't really working for me, so I tried to swallow and all was well. I'd wait a minute, descend another foot or so, and again instant squeeze. Despite these issues, we both felt extremely comfortable in the water with no claustrophobia issues, anxiety, or panic at all.

During the SI, we talked about the issues we had, and the instructor basically told me that I was probably descending too fast, which I don't think I was. My wife told him about the weight belt and BCD issues, so we tried a smaller size, and that was taken care of. The second dive went a bit better, viz cleared up a bit to around 8-10ft, and we actually saw some coral and fish, which excited the wife a lot. :) The main issue we ran into on the second dive was surfacing at the end. We were probably a good 200-300ft (my best guesstimate) from the boat, and the current was working against us. We did a quick towing exercise, and the instructor was between us and the boat. He told us to surface swim on our backs, arms crossed in front of us. No problem! We started swimming...and swimming...and swimming some more. We'd look back, and he's almost at the boat, but the boat didn't seem to be getting any closer. So we swam some more...and then some more. We look back again, boat's still in the same spot. Hmm, this can't be good. No matter how hard we swam, we were not getting closer to the boat. I started getting a bit pissed off that the instructor had left us, as by now he was on the boat with his gear removed, yelling at us to swim harder. My wife was lagging behind me, and was becoming increasingly angry, using words that she only uses when she's really mad. ;) I was worried that she would begin panicking at any moment, so I swam to her in an attempt to calm her down. She told me that she wasn't panicking, she was just really angry at him for leaving us behind. I kept her calm, and she told me that she was done with diving. She didn't want to do it anymore. I had lost my buddy. :(

Finally, I told her to just stop and wait for the boat to come get us, which after about 30-40min of swimming, they finally came over to us. At this point I was livid, and when we got on the boat, I lit into the instructor, asking him what the hell was he thinking, etc. His response was that he wanted us to learn how to swim on the surface, and that he was instructing us from the boat because we were in no immediate danger. While I did agree with him (as we were in constant visual contact the whole time), I explained to him that it's not a very good idea to leave two brand new students behind like he did, knowing that we're not in the best shape like him, and knowing that we were fighting a current the whole way. I told him that a good instructor would stay close by, but far enough to let the student learn on his own without holding his hand, knowing that with a new student, panic could ensue at any time. I then told him that he had failed as an instructor, because he now had a student (my wife) who had no desire to continue her training. It was a quiet boat ride back to the docks, and when we got to our respective cars, I told him again that he was wrong for leaving us alone out in the open water. He apologized and stated that he simply wanted us to learn how to swim back to the boat against current, because he would not always be there to help us in the future. Afterwards, I was talking to my wife and she decided that she will in fact continue with the certification, but she doesn't know if she wants to continue learning from him. Up until Saturday, he had been a great instructor.

Please discuss. :)

Jose
 
I agree, allowing you to wear your backplate and wings will really mess up your buoyancy. OW students are supposed to swim like seahorses, and not trimmed like barracudas. And you would make him look bad in the water, so that is not good for business. Overweight yourself by at least 20 lbs, then you can prove to him that you can swim like a seahorse before the next OW dive.
 
Well, he didn't mean it would mess up my buoyancy; I think what he meant was that I've been training thus far with a jacket, so the BP/W would kind of negate what I've learned up to this point. To be honest, I think I have a pretty long way to go before I can honestly say that I am 100% comfortable with buoyancy control. Whether I learn it with a BCJ or BP/W doesn't matter to me, but the BP/W makes more sense to me, so I'd rather learn with it from as early in the hobby as possible.

Jose
 
You'll have plenty of time to perfect things in the future--like you're whole life.......Get your card and worry about the other(things) later..........
 
As an instructor, I never (repeat never ... yes I said never) leave a student in the water (even on the surface) without me or a divemaster. Especially in severe current. If it took you 30 to 40 minutes to swim 200ft, then that was severe current or you are incredibly slow (I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and say it was severe). Teaching you how to surface swim is a bogus red herring. If it was a true exercise, did he brief it, did he debrief it? Did he give you tips on how to improve? Did he demonstrate the skill? Sounds like a bunch of bunk.

Did he charge you for the rental gear? I prefer to train my students in gear that they are going to use in the real world. Now, if your BP/W setup was brand new and you had never used it, you should have thrown it on and practiced in the pool before going out to the open water. However, as for your wife, I don't understand his "checkout". He could have checked it out on the boat, on the surface, etc. Sounds like he is selling you a set of rental gear and a new gear checkout. However that is an assumption, you did not mention if he actually charged you.

It is truly disheartening to hear of your wife's disinterest in diving. It would seem this experience has tainted. I would recommend finding a way to reverse that course ... or you won't be diving as much as you would like.

best,

jcf
 
Well, if he was my instructor, I too would be livid.

His point about you wearing your own gear is rubbish...yes, it might be different to what you've used till now, but why not let you try it out, get used to it while you're in the water with him to help you if you're not comfortable?

His point about your wife's gear is also absolutely rubbish...

As for making you swim to the boat after he'd already made it...not on...esp as you're both just starting out. He should have brought the boat over to you as soon as he was on board.

I'm very sorry to hear that this has put your wife off completely...Having a partner you know and trust of one of the joys of diving...it's just something else in your relationship that you can trust.

I hope you can persuade her otherwise...
 
I cannot understand, let alone condone the instructor's actions regarding leaving you to "swim against the current" to the boat. I am sure there might be differing viewpoints, but I find this totally without any justification whatsoever under the circumstance of OW dives for basic open water certification. If he wanted you to experience that, it would have been appropriate to have been with you during that time rather than "just taking off."

Personally when I taught, if students had their own stuff then I encouraged them to use it during the course with the understanding that they had to show proof of service on regulators within the last year, as well as letting me look over their rig as a sanity check. In fairness however if they were going to go that route, then I expected them to have and use their equipment in the pool sessions before going to OW checkout. If they had just shown up at OW checkout dives with new gear then I would probably have reservations as something brand new on first open water dives might be a bit overwhelming...but that would depend on the person and how comfortable they had been to that point...judgment call.

I am sorry for what this incident did regarding your wife, and maybe the only thing I can say is that this is not what I would consider appropriate behavior for an instructor and she may want to give it another shot before tossing in the towel.

There is a place for dealing with currents, increased demands on skills,etc., but your first 2 open water dives are in my mind NOT the place to introduce those variables. At the very least there should not be any "surprises". By that I mean that during open water training there should be a dive briefing (as there should be for any dive) that covers what the objective of the dive is along with the skills to be reviewed, including situational awareness of conditions such as viz and current. The first couple of open water check dives are a transitional point from pool to open water conditions, and should have been in a reasonably controlled place where the focus is on moving the student from a swimming pool to open water (which for some students is a challenge in itself). It should not be throwing surprises into the mix, and certainly not imposing tasks that are not spelled out in the pre-dive brief.

People can stress at any time, and dealing with stress is a learned trait. I have seen students who did great in the pool, but when we got into open water with less than desirable vis, and even minor current, have seen several exhibit behavior associated with stress. Putting 2 brand new people in the water during their first checkout dives and tossing in a "gotcha" and in essence leaving them is, I am sorry, stupidity.
 
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I completely agree with what everyone is saying. Let me start out by saying that the wife still wants to dive, just at that moment she was so angry that she did not want to do it. I believe it was a knee-jerk reaction on her part due to the stress of what was happening. Once she cooled down, she stated that she didn't mean that, and that she does want to continue with diving.

The rental gear is included with the course, so I know that he wasn't just trying to get me to pay for renting. I do believe he was sincere in his actions as far as the gear, but I think he was just misinformed. I can definitely see the point of wanting to try everything out in the pool first before going OW with it, but he did not convey that to me at the time. The gear thing wasn't "that" big of a deal to me, it was more so the leaving us behind at the end of the last dive to swim against the current that put me off.

Our first "real" dives are going to be in the Maldives in about 2.5 weeks, and I'm quite sure that something as awesome as that will definitely change her mind about wanting to continue diving. :)

Thank you for the great responses thus far!

Jose
 
If the current was going from the boat towards you, the a##hole instructor could have at least thrown a line out to you and it would have drifted right into you.

Find some videos of the dive sites you are going to. Once you and your wife watch them you will be much more enthused to finish the cert, because there will be a lot more to see than you have seen so far.
 
not sure if it is a requirement anymore but when I was certified we had to tread water for a certain amount of time and had to prove that we could swim a certain distance... IN THE POOL. out in open water with a steep current is not, imo, the place to make students struggle and become frustrated when they are still getting used to the sport. while it will happen in "real life" if you do enough boat dives, swimming against a current for a short time until the dinghy arrives doesn't happen for 30 or 40 minutes. I have been on many, many boat dives and only had to swim once for more than 20 minutes (my fault too).

as far as the instructor being in the boat and already out of his gear, this was totally irresponsible on his part (by the way, was someone in the boat while you were all down?). what if something did go wrong, he would not be able to dress out and get to you in time to be of any help. your safety was his responsibility and he dropped the ball on that one. Thank goodness that nothing went wrong.

glad you and your wife will continue being buddies, it will get much better and many memories will be made. have a good time on your trip and let us know how it all goes.
 

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