Experience prior to wreck diving?

How much experience is required to begin wreck diving safely?

  • 20-50 dives

    Votes: 5 9.8%
  • 50-100 dives

    Votes: 7 13.7%
  • 100+ dives

    Votes: 4 7.8%
  • AOW + Experience

    Votes: 4 7.8%
  • AOW + Wreck Diving

    Votes: 6 11.8%
  • No hard limit -- diver dependent

    Votes: 29 56.9%

  • Total voters
    51

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lundysd

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Hello everyone,

I am a novice diver in the process of completing my NAUI AOW cert and have logged slightly under 50 dives. Since my first dive, however, I have had a desire to learn wreck diving at some point later down the road. Though I am still quite inexperienced, I would like to know everyone's opinions on how much experience is needed to safely begin wreck diving. This could be interpreted as number of dives, number of deep/low-viz dives, personal maturity, etc. Thoughts? Thanks

Scott
 
What kind of wreck diving do you want to do? Are you talking penetration dives or recreational?

My first wreck dive was also my 15th overall dive and part of my AOW certification. It was a small wreck at 90 feet in warm water with 50+ viz. I plan to dive the Florida wrecks next June and while I'm there I'll be getting my wreck certification. That teaches you penetration within the light zone. I wouldn't consider technical penetration until I had a lot of experience with the basic penetration skills.
 
I did my first wreck dive in December 1970 off the NJ coast, after about 25 or so dives no deeper than 40 ft. My mentor sent me to a particular boat, I spoke to the captain, he set me up with an experienced diver, and I made a 110 ft dive.

On my way up the ladder I lost a fin, and on the trip back I lost my cookies.

What an experience!
 
My first wreck dive was my first dive after being certified. As long as you're not doing penetration it's really no different than diving a reef or hard bottom. If you're fortunate enough to be able to dive a nice shallow wreck with decent viz and easy current, do it. You'll love it.

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It's all about having fun and coming back in one piece. Good for you for asking the question, that's always the first step to learning. "How much experience" is probably the wrong question, though - you need to match some skills to the situation and that's hard to calculate based upon X number of dives.

Wreck diving, even if you aren't going inside, can be far more dangerous than a simple dive on a reef or featureless bottom. Every fisherman knows that wrecks are great places to fish but that they are also easy places to snag a line and lose it. That lost line can mean serious entanglement hazards exist on lots of "easy" wreck dives that divers very often can't see until they're snagged. Add in the potential for deteriorating conditions that lead to unstable parts collapsing and a diver has at least a couple of ways to find himself in a tight spot without ever penetrating the wreck.

So long as you stay well off a wreck that is outside the zone where fishing line might snag you and nothing can fall over on top of you I don't know that any special skills are required. Once you start getting close, however, you need to have a presence of mind and a solid buddy, as well as the equipment and planning to deal with the possible emergencies. For instance, how do you untangle a buddy caught in monofilament (which can be nearly invisible) without getting caught up in it yourself?

Actual penetration of a wreck is probably the most dangerous diving that the average person will ever do. Foot for foot, penetrating a wreck is more dangerous than cave diving due to the potential for disorientation, silt-outs, snags, collapses, cutting and poking edges, swinging and toppling everything, etc. Except for currents inside the wreck, you've got all the hazards of cave diving plus a bunch of new ones, so getting prepared is critical.

I'm old-school enough to believe that every diver should have the goal of getting Rescue certified. It's been my experience that Rescue is the class where divers are faced with situations and ideas that will push them to learn to be self-reliant and independent. Even if you aren't going to be wreck diving, Rescue should be on your list of classes to take - but if you're planning to get close to any kind of wreck, Rescue should be mandatory. Beyond that, skills and gear need to be matched to the wreck and to your plan. You need to be comfortable in the water and have mastered (and routinely practice) all of the basic skills: multiple kinds of finning techniques, mask removal and replacement, alternate air sharing, and more, depending upon the dive. You need to be able to control your buoyancy well enough to hold a position without moving your arms or feet so that you won't be stirring up the silt. You need to have good signaling skills so that you and your buddy can communicate effectively. I do a lot of wreck diving and never - NEVER - go inside one without a completely redundant gas supply and multiple spools, lights and cutting devices. PADI has a lightweight Wreck class that is good for those who are just looking to swim around the wreck and don't intend to go inside, full penetration requires far more serious training. Cave diving skills translate pretty well to wreck diving, so most of the Cavern and Cave classes taught by several agencies are going to teach you things you need to know.

Have a plan and take it one step at a time and you'll find yourself deep inside a wreck in good enough time. Enjoy the adventure and remember that the journey to your destination should be half the fun.
 
We're spoiled in the 1000 Islands area. Nice little wreck at Alexandria Bay immediately offshore from the local hospital. It's a standard place for new divers to visit, including during certs. Fisherman-free, shallow, no penetration.
 
lundysd:
I am a novice diver in the process of completing my NAUI AOW cert and have logged slightly under 50 dives. Since my first dive, however, I have had a desire to learn wreck diving at some point later down the road. Though I am still quite inexperienced, I would like to know everyone's opinions on how much experience is needed to safely begin wreck diving. This could be interpreted as number of dives, number of deep/low-viz dives, personal maturity, etc. Thoughts? Thanks
Scott
Hi, Scott. My first wreck dives were done with a buddy who has decades of experience, on a ship he helped prep and sink (the Yukon, in San Diego). I hadn't thought wrecks would appeal to me, but the first time I saw the Yukon I was hooked. I was fortunate to make two good dive buddies in S.D. who could lead me on progressively harder penetrations. Of course, that should only happen after adequate training and evaluation.

To answer your question on experience, you will need much better than average buoyancy and maneuvering control, including hovering motionless and back-finning. You need also to have paid attention to every item of your kit and its potential for catching on obstructions (a big leg-strapped knife, for instance).

Finally, you must be able to stop and consider what to do next instead of reacting to your own emotional state. In my estimation, divers who have been stressed to (or near) the panic point in other situations (including during training) have a better understanding of the need to monitor and control their mental state while diving. This could be what you're intuiting when you say "personal maturity." Given the same skill set, I'd choose a diver who's had to fight down panic over one who's never run into trouble.

Best practices always,
Bryan
 

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