Drowning Doesn't Look Like Drowning

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I did not find an exact fit forum to post this so I'm doing it here , move if needed.
I repost this every year since 2010 , this time on FB I've got 36 shares so far ... Thank You Mario for making it

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Drowning Doesn't Look Like Drowning
- Scuba Board ... "by Mario on May 18, 2010
in Boating Safety, Coast Guard, Captain ...

The new captain jumped from the cockpit, fully dressed, and sprinted through the water. A former lifeguard, he kept his eyes on his victim as he headed straight for the owners who were swimming between their anchored sportfisher and the beach. “I think he thinks you’re drowning,” the husband said to his wife. They had been splashing each other and she had screamed but now they were just standing, neck-deep on the sand bar. “We’re fine, what is he doing?” she asked, a little annoyed. “We’re fine!” the husband yelled, waving him off, but his captain kept swimming hard. ”Move!” he barked as he sprinted between the stunned owners. Directly behind them, not ten feet away, their nine-year-old daughter was drowning. Safely above the surface in the arms of the captain, she burst into tears, “Daddy!”

How did this captain know, from fifty feet away, what the father couldn’t recognize from just ten? Drowning is not the violent, splashing, call for help that most people expect. The captain was trained to recognize drowning by experts and years of experience. The father, on the other hand, had learned what drowning looks like by watching television. If you spend time on or near the water (hint: that’s all of us) then you should make sure that you and your crew knows what to look for whenever people enter the water. Until she cried a tearful, “Daddy,” she hadn’t made a sound. As a former Coast Guard rescue swimmer, I wasn’t surprised at all by this story. Drowning is almost always a deceptively quiet event. The waving, splashing, and yelling that dramatic conditioning (television) prepares us to look for, is rarely seen in real life.

The Instinctive Drowning Response – so named by Francesco A. Pia, Ph.D., is what people do to avoid actual or perceived suffocation in the water. And it does not look like most people expect. There is very little splashing, no waving, and no yelling or calls for help of any kind. To get an idea of just how quiet and undramatic from the surface drowning can be, consider this: It is the number two cause of accidental death in children, age 15 and under (just behind vehicle accidents) – of the approximately 750 children who will drown next year, about 375 of them will do so within 25 yards of a parent or other adult. In ten percent of those drownings, the adult will actually watch them do it, having no idea it is happening (source: CDC). Drowning does not look like drowning – Dr. Pia, in an article in the Coast Guard’s On Scene Magazine, described the instinctive drowning response like this:

Except in rare circumstances, drowning people are physiologically unable to call out for help. The respiratory system was designed for breathing. Speech is the secondary or overlaid function. Breathing must be fulfilled, before speech occurs.
Drowning people’s mouths alternately sink below and reappear above the surface of the water. The mouths of drowning people are not above the surface of the water long enough for them to exhale, inhale, and call out for help. When the drowning people’s mouths are above the surface, they exhale and inhale quickly as their mouths start to sink below the surface of the water.
Drowning people cannot wave for help. Nature instinctively forces them to extend their arms laterally and press down on the water’s surface. Pressing down on the surface of the water, permits drowning people to leverage their bodies so they can lift their mouths out of the water to breathe.

Throughout the Instinctive Drowning Response, drowning people cannot voluntarily control their arm movements. Physiologically, drowning people who are struggling on the surface of the water cannot stop drowning and perform voluntary movements such as waving for help, moving toward a rescuer, or reaching out for a piece of rescue equipment.
From beginning to end of the Instinctive Drowning Response people’s bodies remain upright in the water, with no evidence of a supporting kick. Unless rescued by a trained lifeguard, these drowning people can only struggle on the surface of the water from 20 to 60 seconds before submersion occurs.

(Source: On Scene Magazine: Fall 2006)
This doesn’t mean that a person that is yelling for help and thrashing isn’t in real trouble – they are experiencing aquatic distress. Not always present before the instinctive drowning response, aquatic distress doesn’t last long – but unlike true drowning, these victims can still assist in their own rescue. They can grab lifelines, throw rings, etc.
Look for these other signs of drowning when persons are n the water:

Head low in the water, mouth at water level
Head tilted back with mouth open
Eyes glassy and empty, unable to focus
Eyes closed
Hair over forehead or eyes
Not using legs – Vertical
Hyperventilating or gasping
Trying to swim in a particular direction but not making headway
Trying to roll over on the back
Ladder climb, rarely out of the water.

So if a crew member falls overboard and every looks O.K. – don’t be too sure. Sometimes the most common indication that someone is drowning is that they don’t look like they’re drowning. They may just look like they are treading water and looking up at the deck. One way to be sure? Ask them: “Are you alright?” If they can answer at all – they probably are. If they return a blank stare – you may have less than 30 seconds to get to them. And parents: children playing in the water make noise. When they get quiet, you get to them and find out why.
 
@The Chairman, this needs to be a permanent top post on the forum somewhere.

@D_B thank you for posting this. Very good information that may save someone's life.

Have a good weekend.
Jay
 
Thank you.

I once saw a man drowning. Maybe it's more correct to say: I didn't saw a man drowning.

I was around 22 years old and next to the swimming pool. A man played with his grandchild in the water.

The swim guard was right next to me. I was watching my cellphone, so it's understandable I didn't saw it. But the guard had is eyes right on them.

The man drowned. The little kid tried to rescue him(kid was maybe 5 years), that's what caught the attention of other people. They pulled him out. He was dead.
They revived him, but it looked bad. Don't know if he lived, after he went to hospital.
The family left the next day, so probably not..

There were so many people around the pool. Me and the guard were maximum 2 m distance to him and no one saw it.

Yes I blame to the guard, especially after I saw him trying to revive him(it was a mess) but that's another story.

drowning is silent and is very quick.

After I learned diving and now became a dive instructor I sharpened my awareness and watch people in water more closely.
But most people without diving or other water Hobbys are not educated enough on this subject. I wasn't before I was diving..
 
i was on vacation in the caribbean and was swimming from a catamaran to shore, along with a handful of other vacationers, when i noticed a man a little ways off.
he seemed to be struggling.
i looked around and no one seemed to be paying any attention. not even the crew.
i approached him and could see he was in trouble. i do not believe he spoke much english.
after we hailed the staff to come by in the dingy, i was able to get him to relax and float on his back while i tried to help get him closer to the boat.
all turned out ok. but i hate to think what may have happened if i had not noticed him.
it was only maybe 200 feet to shore. even an average swimmer like me could easily do it. i am not sure why he tried to swim to shore if he knew he was not a good swimmer.
peer pressure maybe?
 
Sitting on a condo patio near the edge of a pool during a kid's party, lots and lots of people around. I watch a pregnant woman walk from the shallow end into the deep end to get her crying child, that child was on a kick board and in no danger. She walked right in over her head and started to drown. I watched it unfold, and by her second slight hand wave I was launching myself (fully dressed) across the pool deck and into the pool, a woman that was watching what I was (and my wife) was about 3 steps behind. I got her out (at the cost of my cell phone). She was so shocked, she just walked away when we got her out. Later she walked by and almost inaudible, said only "thanks". And, I didn't do it for a "thank you" but mention it as an example of how much it is an almost an out of body experience for the victim.

No one else, of at least 30 people, noticed it happing. So basically, I saved 2 lives! So I have that going for me.....
 
My one save as an Instructor was exactly like that.
A certified diver accompanied her best friend for my cert class of three in Lake Tahoe. It had been years since she last dove, and it showed. Poor buoyancy control and lots of wasted effort. We surfaced in flat water after dive #3 and I'm talking to the students as they floated. She's about ten feet away off to my left when she caught my eye.

Completely quiet, with no air added to her bcd upon surfacing, she had apparently been finning to keep afloat when she ran out of strength. Chin up, without a sound, she just sank.

It was three quick strokes to reach her, grab her shoulder strap about one foot below the surface and hit the inflate button. After a bit, we swam together to shore with my DM hanging back with the students. Walking out onto the beach, she muttered, "I quit."

No amount of conversation over the rest of the day would convince her to return for a one-on-one refresher. She had literally frightened herself nearly to death.
 
The only time I know directly of a diver being rescued was precisely what was described here. This story was told by a friend who had just finished diving and taken off her gear on the boat when it happened. They had dived the Spiegel Grove in Florida and were attached to one of the mooring balls. Suddenly one of their DMs was leaning over the rail shouting "Inflate your BCD!" They looked and saw a diver on the surface struggling in the surface current to get to the boat moored on the neighboring ball. His head was barely above water, and he was sometimes taking on water has he tried to reach his boat. The DM shouted to the crew of his boat that they needed to rescue their diver, but that crew did not seem to understand. The DM kept shouting at the diver to inflate his BCD, but it had no effect.

When the man finally sank below the waves, the DM jumped in and swam to where he had sunk. He apparently got to him at about 20 feet, grabbed his arm, and pulled him to the surface. He dragged him to his boat, where his gear was taken off and CPR begun. He vomited water and revived.
 
When 40+ years ago I stopped by my parents house and walked in to the pool area where some neighbors kids were swimming. Everybody was happy and running around except for one kid who was just standing on the bottom with water over his head. I jumped in, boots and all, and lifted him up. To this day I don't know for sure if he would have drowned.
 
If I recall correctly, a dive boat captain who did not throw an available life ring immediately to a diver in apparent trouble on the surface but with a DM and/other divers nearby (if I heard it correctly), had her license suspended. I don't recall the details exactly.
In the scuba-boat world, we tend to think of divers and buddies as "divers" first and foremost, and if in apparent difficulty on the surface, will be assisted by nearby divers or the DM, who will use dive equipment and principles (inflate BC, ditch weights, give a surface tow as we learned in Rescue courses) to get the situation under control.

But the Coast Guard doesn't see it that way. They see them simply as "passengers", so if in any doubt, throw the life ring first, and deal with the diving-related details second.
 
She was so shocked, she just walked away when we got her out. Later she walked by and almost inaudible, said only "thanks". And, I didn't do it for a "thank you" but mention it as an example of how much it is an almost an out of body experience for the victim.

similar to you, i never got any type of a "thank you". and it turned out the guy was even a fellow canadian. haha

i think you are right that peple can def be in shock after going thru this. the feeling of embarrassment can also be quite powerful with many people.
 
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