Donuts wing and AL tank

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stefusa

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As far as I know (i am still a newbie) Aluminium tank are butt light !!!
So is there really a reason to choose a donuts wing instead of an horseshoe wing because we don't need to add lift on the bottom of an AL tank ???
Am I right ????

Thanks
 
stefusa:
As far as I know (i am still a newbie) Aluminium tank are butt light !!!
So is there really a reason to choose a donuts wing instead of an horseshoe wing because we don't need to add lift on the bottom of an AL tank ???
Am I right ????

Thanks
all tanks are butt light. Its because of the valve. Some tanks are just a little more extreme than others.

You pick a donut wing because its easier to move air from side to side to vent, not to hold up the bottom.
 
If a donut wing is shaped to provide more lift at the top, than at the bottom, then everything will still be fine. Look for one that tapers as it approaches the bottom of the tanks.
 
Ok but the DSS torus seems to be wider at the bottom, is that for weight belt wearers??????

thanks
 
stefusa:
Ok but the DSS torus seems to be wider at the bottom, is that for weight belt wearers??????

thanks
Gas in the wing will move to the highest part.

So for a donut wing, you will never have gas in the part that goes under the tank (you would have to invert yourself)

Tobin would be better at answering this, but wings are wider at places so that they can wrap around the tank and be the highest point of the wing. ergo...the place where the most lift is applied. So if his wings are wider on the bottom, he is probably trying to get the most lift in that location.
 
You'll have to ask Tobin, or someone who dives these Torus wings for singles.
 
stefusa:
As far as I know (i am still a newbie) Aluminium tank are butt light !!!
So is there really a reason to choose a donuts wing instead of an horseshoe wing because we don't need to add lift on the bottom of an AL tank ???
Am I right ????

Thanks

A circular bladder, by itself does not add lift at the base of a wing, in normal use.

Consider a diver in horizontal trim, with 50% or less of his wing filled, i.e. a 30 lbs wing filled to displace 15 lbs. Except on the surface wings are almost never filled to capacity, usually 0-50% in normal use. If you have your wing fully inflated at depth something is wrong.

Where is the gas in that 50% filled wing? It's in two bubbles, one running down each side of the tank. There is no gas in lower arc of the wing. Why? because gas naturally moves to the highest point in the wing. The lower arc of a donut singles wing is trapped below the bottom of the tank and your rear end. That's alot lower than the bubbles on each side of the tank, where the partially inflated wing wraps up the side of the tank a bit.

It's possible to build a donut wing with more lift near the lower end of the tank. That's achieved by making the wing wider at that location. We do exactly that on our Torus 35. Why? because if you are wearing enough exposure suit to need a 35 lbs singles wing you are also using more ballast. If that ballast is in a weight belt you need more lift near your hips.

Our Torus 26 has much less "flare" near the bottom of the wing. In conditions that permit using a smaller wing the exposure suits are typically less buoyant, and weight belts are either not used or are only a few lbs. If you have little or no weight belt you don't need lift at the hips.

Tobin
 
Can you build a 45# lift wing with a narrow bottom?


Please? :)
 

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