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Its true, from the BBC.


North Sea divers vote for strike

Oil and gas production could be hit if the strike goes ahead
Deep sea divers working in the oil industry have voted for strike action over their pay demands.
Workers in the North Sea are seeking a 50% rise and had been considering industrial action after being offered a 15% increase over three years.

The RMT union balloted divers and support workers on the offer and they rejected it by 640 votes to two.

Union chiefs warned that only a "dramatically improved" deal would stop the strike going ahead on 1 November.

The all-but-unanimous vote shows exactly how angry our members are

Bob Crow
RMT union

The RMT said divers were carrying out probably the most dangerous job in the North Sea.

They go below the cold waters to carry out work on wells and pipelines.

However the divers claim pay rises have been modest at best in recent years.

If the action proceeds then oil and gas production could be severely disrupted.

'Compromises effectiveness'

RMT general secretary Bob Crow said: "The all-but-unanimous vote shows exactly how angry our members are at an offer that simply fails even to dent the chronic pay slippage they have had to endure for more than 20 years.

"We hope the employers will take note of this tremendous ballot result and table an offer that redresses the real-terms pay cuts and sub-inflation deals our members have been expected to swallow for so long.

"No-one can argue that the industry cannot afford to pay decent rates to people who do some of the most difficult and dangerous work in a particularly difficult and dangerous industry."

Steve Harris, of the UK Offshore Operators Association (UKOOA), said: "Strike action by any group within the industry is obviously disappointing.

"Anything that compromises the competitiveness of the UK in what is a globally competitive market place is deeply regretted and strike action harms the attractiveness of the UK in just the same way that regular tax increases do.

"The industry will obviously do all it can to minimise the effect of any action and we very much hope that it can be avoided entirely."
 
OUTFREAKINGSTANDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've long supported a worldwide union of commercial deepsea oilfield divers ( along with an associate union for inshore construction divers ) - this may finally get things moving. What I pine for is a very difficult thing to do, probably unrealistic, but individual geographical associations might work better & be more achievable.

Most folks have an inflated view of what deepsea divers earn; truth is, the only decent money is earned in saturation, & there is little enough of that type of work to go around - it takes years of experience to "get a shot at the pot". Still, the money paid for Sat. is inadequate.

For the inherent risks taken, both on the bottom & the unknown long term physiological effects of significant exposure, the pay has never measured up. While acknowledging that unions are fraught with problems, they remain the only viable alternative for the common worker to achieve change in the workplace.

Regards,
DSD
 
DeepSeaDan:
OUTFREAKINGSTANDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've long supported a worldwide union of commercial deepsea oilfield divers ( along with an associate union for inshore construction divers ) - this may finally get things moving. What I pine for is a very difficult thing to do, probably unrealistic, but individual geographical associations might work better & be more achievable.

Most folks have an inflated view of what deepsea divers earn; truth is, the only decent money is earned in saturation, & there is little enough of that type of work to go around - it takes years of experience to "get a shot at the pot". Still, the money paid for Sat. is inadequate.

For the inherent risks taken, both on the bottom & the unknown long term physiological effects of significant exposure, the pay has never measured up. While acknowledging that unions are fraught with problems, they remain the only viable alternative for the common worker to achieve change in the workplace.

Regards,
DSD

So, give examples. What kind of money do they make. I can't make a judgement on the facts of the matter without the facts.


Ken
 
I'm polling some associates in different locations for an update ( I've been out of the game for some time now ) on current pay rates...standby.

DSD
 
DeepSeaDan:
OUTFREAKINGSTANDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've long supported a worldwide union of commercial deepsea oilfield divers ( along with an associate union for inshore construction divers ) - this may finally get things moving. What I pine for is a very difficult thing to do, probably unrealistic, but individual geographical associations might work better & be more achievable.

Most folks have an inflated view of what deepsea divers earn; truth is, the only decent money is earned in saturation, & there is little enough of that type of work to go around - it takes years of experience to "get a shot at the pot". Still, the money paid for Sat. is inadequate.

For the inherent risks taken, both on the bottom & the unknown long term physiological effects of significant exposure, the pay has never measured up. While acknowledging that unions are fraught with problems, they remain the only viable alternative for the common worker to achieve change in the workplace.

Regards,
DSD
I couldn't agree with you more. Everyone thinks diving for that pay check is the only way to go. But in the real world there is no glory, very little enjoyment if any, a lot of hard work and hazards most will never encounter in their lifetime.

They still haven't identified all the medical problems diving causes and they may never know all of them.

I just have to chuckle everytime I hear someone say they are going to get rich as a diver. They don't make today what Standard Oil offered us in 1970. It was enough money to get your hair to stand up on end but to go along with that BIG cash was something like a 50/50 chance you wouldn't collect your next check either from an injury or death. They were even going to supply the gear unlike today where the diver himself has to supply it.

Not the glory profession people think it is.

Gary D.
 
Whilst I don't know what the pay is I do remember reading last week. BP a record second 1/4 for profits....and the first 1/4 was also a record for profits. I can not remember the $ amounts but it was billions
 
Notso_Ken:
So, give examples. What kind of money do they make. I can't make a judgement on the facts of the matter without the facts.


Ken

Okay Ken - here ya go:

> Rates vary from company to company & geographical location of the diving ops.

> Extra pay can be earned through specialized training ( eg.: Lead-Diver, Diver-Medical Tech., N.D.T. Inspection Certified, H.P. Pipe Welding ticket(s) etc., etc. )

> Pay Range Scale:

* Tender ( starting position ) - $13.00/hr. to $16.00/hr.
* Air Diver : $18.00/hr. to $23.00/hr.
* Gas Diver : $10.00/hr. to $20.00/hr. bonus above air diving rate
* Sat. diver : Can be paid on an hourly or 24 hr. basis, using a variety of formulas; however, the range for a 24hr. rate would be from $500.00/day to $1200.00/day
* Flight pay, benefits vary widely across the employment spectrum.
* Paid for time offshore only ( 12 hour ave. day, 7 days a week, usually on a contract basis )
* Separate rates for Diving Supervisors, Superintendents, L.S.T.'s ( Life Support Tech.s )
* Pay rates in the Gulf of Mexico are significantly lower than in other areas

By comparison, a "Rigger" ( someone who slings loads for lifting )2x as much/hr. as a gas diver.

Hope this sheds some light.

Regards,
DSD
 
DeepSeaDan:
Okay Ken - here ya go:

> Rates vary from company to company & geographical location of the diving ops.

> Extra pay can be earned through specialized training ( eg.: Lead-Diver, Diver-Medical Tech., N.D.T. Inspection Certified, H.P. Pipe Welding ticket(s) etc., etc. )

> Pay Range Scale:

* Tender ( starting position ) - $13.00/hr. to $16.00/hr.
* Air Diver : $18.00/hr. to $23.00/hr.
* Gas Diver : $10.00/hr. to $20.00/hr. bonus above air diving rate
* Sat. diver : Can be paid on an hourly or 24 hr. basis, using a variety of formulas; however, the range for a 24hr. rate would be from $500.00/day to $1200.00/day
* Flight pay, benefits vary widely across the employment spectrum.
* Paid for time offshore only ( 12 hour ave. day, 7 days a week, usually on a contract basis )
* Separate rates for Diving Supervisors, Superintendents, L.S.T.'s ( Life Support Tech.s )
* Pay rates in the Gulf of Mexico are significantly lower than in other areas

By comparison, a "Rigger" ( someone who slings loads for lifting )2x as much/hr. as a gas diver.

Hope this sheds some light.

Regards,
DSD

That does indeed, thanks for the data.

They don't get paid enough for me to go live that lifestyle.

When I see people going on strike the first thing I do is look at the job conditions versus pay, and decide if I would do that work for their pay. That let's me decide if I can support that strike or not.

So, when airline pilots or major league athletes go on strike, I have absolutely no support for them, because I'd be willing to do the job for less than they get paid. In this case, I I wouldn't be willing to take their place.

Ken
 
So the average gas diver makes about $74,000 a year working 40 hours a week?



DeepSeeDan:
Air Diver : $18.00/hr. to $23.00/hr.
* Gas Diver : $10.00/hr. to $20.00/hr. bonus above air diving rate

Wouldn't this mean the average person is making over $35 an hour?
 
marusso:
So the average gas diver makes about $74,000 a year working 40 hours a week?





Wouldn't this mean the average person is making over $35 an hour?


Yep. 2x(hourly rate) x1000= annual pay, basically, so a diver making 35$ an hour would pull in about 70k before taxes.

Not enough money for me to do that work, anyway. I can come pretty close to that on land, and dive for pleasure pretty much whenever I want.
 

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