Cruising & Diving... Good match?

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SunMari

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:06: My hubby and I are looking into a cruise vacation sometime in July or August to the Western Caribbean on a Royal Caribbean Cruise. We have never cruised before. Last year we went to the keys which is basically are own backyard being less than 3-4 hours away and spent soooo much money, on room alone. Let alone food and then add diving to it. We think a cruise might be a better value and we'll get to see exotic places we've never seen before. After looking at the "shore excursions" offered by the cruise, I see that the dives are limited and are pretty expensive, but I have nothing to compare it to. For example in Belize for a two tank dive they are charging aprox. $150/ person including gear. Compared to diving in Ft. Lauderdale for $85.00 I think this is a lot. After Belize we will go to Costa Maya, Mexico then Cozumel, Mexico and finally Grand Cayman.
Any and all info is as always, GREATLY appreciated.
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SunMari:
:06: My hubby and I are looking into a cruise vacation sometime in July or August to the Western Caribbean on a Royal Caribbean Cruise. We have never cruised before. Last year we went to the keys which is basically are own backyard being less than 3-4 hours away and spent soooo much money, on room alone. Let alone food and then add diving to it. We think a cruise might be a better value and we'll get to see exotic places we've never seen before. After looking at the "shore excursions" offered by the cruise, I see that the dives are limited and are pretty expensive, but I have nothing to compare it to. For example in Belize for a two tank dive they are charging aprox. $150/ person including gear. Compared to diving in Ft. Lauderdale for $85.00 I think this is a lot. After Belize we will go to Costa Maya, Mexico then Cozumel, Mexico and finally Grand Cayman.
Any and all info is as always, GREATLY appreciated.
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It isn't difficult to set up some diving with local dive shops in each of the ports that you'll dock at. I say "dock at" because if you tender (small boats that bring you ashore) it is hard to get off the boat at a specific time. Most local dive shops will pick you up at the pier and bring you back to the boat when your done. By doing this you'll save ALOT of money and for the most part have a much more enjoyable dive experience. The diving excursions tend to be restrictive, depth, time and what not.
Here is a link the will let you search for potential dive shops located at the ports you'll visit PADI Resort Search
After you figure out what potential dive ops you want to use in each port, you should come back to the board and ask for some opinions on the shops you might use.
Good Luck
 
Definitely make your own arrangements to dive. You will save money and very possibly have a better time diving.

Belize is the hardest place to make your own arrangements which leads people to use the ship's excursion. Wonder why it cost so much there?

Cozumel could be the least expensive place for a 2 tank boat dive. www.divewithmartin.com is the low price leader and has a good reputation as well. I personally have gone with www.bluextseadiving.com , www.liquidbluedivers.com and www.cozumel-diving.net/caribbean_divers/ I'd dive with any of them again, but I'm planning on going with Blue XT Sea next time. Liquid Blue attracts more advanced divers. Caribbean Divers is good in that they will work with a cruise diver's schedule. There are only about 80 dive shops on Cozumel, so the chance of finding one that matches your wants/needs is pretty good.

There are only a couple of choices for diving in Costa Maya and I haven't used either one. http://www.dreamtimediving.com is one of them

Grand Cayman also has plenty of dive operators. Things in GCM are expensive and diving is no exception. If you really want to save money, this is the place to do some shore diving. You can rent tanks and weights from www.divetech.com and do the shore dive right by their shop (I'd do this shore dive). Lots of cruisers dive Eden Rock, mostly because it is only a block or 2 to the right of when the tenders dock. Lost of snorkelers go there too. I'd rather avoid a crowd, but if you are looking for the easy way to go, there are 2 diver shops right by the dive site. Abanks diving a Eden Rock diving. You can also shore dive at Sunset House hotel, they have an on-site dive shop.

I prefer boat diving to shore diving. You have better access to more sites and it is just easier. www.neptunesdivers.com is a good operation who will work to accommodate your schedule. Tell Casey that Diveborg recommended them. Or mention the name Doc. Vikingo, he was the one who recommended them to me ;)

Also, check Cruise Critic for cruise-dive info. Don't forget to check the rest of CC for more cruise info.

To summarize:
Cruise ship diving isn't as easy as true liveaboard diving or from a land based resort, but it can cruising is fun (at least for most people) and you do get to dive in some pretty nice places.

Now, any questions?

Bruce
BTW, don't you find it difficult to read that deepskyblue colored text?
 
First off, sorry for the deepskyblue colored text... after posting the message I realized it was a tad difficult. Thanks a lot for all the valuable info. We are relatively new to diving and really long for a great experience. Why do you say Belize is the hardest to make dive arrangements? If anyone else has info please post. :)
 
We did an 11 night Caribbean cruise this past December and dove from it. We found that cruising and diving don't go that well together for us. The gear was rather a hassle considering all the other luggage we had to take (dressing for dinner, etc), and a veranda was a MUST to dry the gear after diving (which was fine since we always get a veranda cabin anyway). Times in port weren't always conducive to planning a private dive, and typically the ship's dive excursions ran a strong risk of being a cattle call, particularly when they were combined with snorkelers.

We love to cruise, but it was clear to us that we should cruise because we want to cruise, not because we want to dive. Diving has to just be an extra that we may or may not be able to do. Because of this, our next cruise is with Nekton in Belize! ;-)
 
SunMari:
Why do you say Belize is the hardest to make dive arrangements?
Because the boat anchors off the coast and any dive ops would have to have permission of the cruise line to approach the boat and pickup divers. Which of course the cruise line does not grant this priviledge, unless they are a cruiseline excursion.
 
Hi,

My wife/dive-buddy and I just did a Royal Caribbean cruise heavy with diving in March. A lot of the advice and opinion presented already is good, but as always there is a lot of personal desire and choice and taste involved, so I will simply present my take on things for whatever information or insight (or amusement ;-) that might provide:

First, we like cruising for vacations a lot (diamond members now on RCCL). We have done a lot of the excursions on repeat ports already (typically the active stuff like snorkelling or kayaking), so scuba is a new way to enjoy the ports we revisit. In fact, we got enticed to diving from our experiences cruising (love snorkeling, watching divers below us thought "this is cool, but that's really COOL").

Second, we are relatively new divers. We love it, and have done some dedicated (short) diving trips (to Cozumel), and local diving (in Chicagoland, brrrrr, but want to build the skils and dive). But, we've only been at this a year or so, ~45 dives.

Third, the excursions:

The diving excursions done from cruises are aimed at beginning to next step more experienced divers. You can still have good diving if you fit that profile.

The excursion operators are reasonably audited and held to high standards of operation by the cruise line (reducing the need for doing your own research in a new area). You can have confidence in a good operation (full safety equipment, roll calls, dive briefings, etc.). The dive ops and cruise line collaborate on scheduling to fit your port time, and guarantee your return to the ship (something less certain when booking your own). This is what you are paying the premium for.

You do get a nice sampling of a bunch of diving locations; but it is a quick fly-by sample. Cozumel was great, as was St Thomas, St Maarten, and Nassau. I don't think we got to give Belize a good chance, though, it is too spread out to get a good sense of the place in one short day.

So, cruise diving seemed a good thing, and we are at a sweet-spot in terms of timing ... still wanted the cruise vacation, wanted to dive more and our experience level matched the excursion target market.


The ship we took, Exlporer of the Seas, has a Sea Trek dive shop onboard (they manage the excursions), which turned out to be useful: Our dive computers failed on the first dive (fortunately we had backup depth/bottomtimers, and always plan against tables also), and we could rent (and later buy, it was a good deal) replacement computers. I think having an onboard dive shop is a good feature to look for.

The downsides noted are also quite real. It is a pain to lug all your own equipment, hard to pack for all the disparate things you do (diving, formal dinners, etc.), and you definitely benefit from the balcony and tub suite ($$, though many cruisers will do this anyway if they can afford it). We brought everything, since we were diving a lot this trip, but we did observe the quality of rental gear was good (you could rent at the onboard dive shop, or at the excursion operator), so keep that option in mind for some of the gear if you don't want to lug.

The dives were indeed targeted at lower experience levels, but we were pleased to see that most of the ops were able to split the boat into different groups and tailor the experience more appropriately to the variations amongst the divers. Still, very experienced divers would probably not find the dives great (there was one such pair ... thought it was nice to dive at all while cruising, but weren't thrilled).

It was certainly a nice way to combine two things we live to do, and the timing where we can successfully do so was perfect. In not too long, I expect we will do more diving-only vacations, and find cruise diving at best a nice diversion while doing a cruise anyway.


Bottom line: For us, with our vacation desires and diving experience, cruise diving was terrific. However, do recongnize that the experience can be a specialized fit!


Cheers,
Walter
 
SunMari:
:06: My hubby and I are looking into a cruise vacation sometime in July or August to the Western Caribbean on a Royal Caribbean Cruise. We have never cruised before. Last year we went to the keys which is basically are own backyard being less than 3-4 hours away and spent soooo much money, on room alone. Let alone food and then add diving to it. We think a cruise might be a better value and we'll get to see exotic places we've never seen before. After looking at the "shore excursions" offered by the cruise, I see that the dives are limited and are pretty expensive, but I have nothing to compare it to. For example in Belize for a two tank dive they are charging aprox. $150/ person including gear. Compared to diving in Ft. Lauderdale for $85.00 I think this is a lot. After Belize we will go to Costa Maya, Mexico then Cozumel, Mexico and finally Grand Cayman.
Any and all info is as always, GREATLY appreciated.
:06:

Just returned from West Caribbean cruise and probably would not combine diving and cruising again. Diving all 4 ports leaves you very little time for anything else. Ship's schedule and your dive schedule may not be convenient;you will miss lunch or dinner. Bringing your own equipment is a major hassle. There are stairs, lines, and gangplanks. In Cozumel there's a 1/4 mile of duty free shops and mall before you even reach the taxi stand. Because of security, dive boats cannot pick up or drop you at the dock. Cruising is supposed to be relaxing. Also it is very easy to form a poor opinion about a dive area based on 1 days diving. Give me 7 days at a nice resort or liveaboard anytime!
 
I will not comment on the issues that have already been discussed before. I guess that the main "problem" with diving from a cruise ship is that it does not leave you with hardly any time for anything else in the ports you visit. By the time you make it to the dive operator and/or the dive sites and have your dives (usually two). Then back to the boat to clean up. POOF - it is time for dinner and the ship leaves soon.

OK, having said all of that, I will be diving from an NCL cruise ship starting Oct. 29th. You just need to decide what is of more interest to you.

ps - I always take my own gear, because I know where it has been and how it was cared for.

DSDO
 
Cruise diving is a compromise, like many things in life. You have to choose what is more important and do that. If you are like me where diving is the most important, not seeing much of an island is the consequence of choosing to dive. Hauling gear is a pain, but one you will have to put up with if you want to use your own.

I think a cruise is a decent compromise vacation if you are the only diver in a family, but if you are a couple that dives, I think a live aboard or dive resort is a much better choice. Especially if you are dive-aholics.
 

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