SkullCaptain
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I have accumulated some first stages and I'm trying to choose which to keep and which to sell. Who can help me compare and contrast the Zeagle Envoy, Aqualung Titan and Oceanic CDX5?
Compare and contrast some old first stages: CDX5, Zeagle Envoy, Aqualung Titan
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runsongas
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they are all diaphragm and should all work similarly, with the envoy being a slightly newer design so it might perform slightly better. the titan has cheap parts available for rebuilding from trident if you have access. the zeagle is probably the easiest to get oem kits, but its getting old enough that there is a risk if support gets discontinued you will be stuck in a dacor situation.
keyshunter
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As it happens , over the years, I have had all 3. The Oceanic had problems was returned to Oceanic replaced with new and immediately sold. The Zeagle has been in occasional service for at least 10 years with no problems. It is a nice reg.
I currently have 1 Titan and 5 Titan LX in service and they're (obviously) my go - to regs. OEM parts have gotten a bit tight (I recently began pirating one LX second stage for parts) but I will continue with them as long possible because I know and like them.
I currently have 1 Titan and 5 Titan LX in service and they're (obviously) my go - to regs. OEM parts have gotten a bit tight (I recently began pirating one LX second stage for parts) but I will continue with them as long possible because I know and like them.
Belzelbub
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I seriously doubt that you'll run into a support issue if it's discontinued. The Envoy uses the exact same service kit as the majority of the Zeagle line. For first stages, I believe only the Razor is different.
I've got a long ago discontinued Zeagle DS-IV/V. No trouble getting service as it uses the same kits as my Onyx II and FH-7.
As mentioned, Zeagle first stages since they started making them (meaning not Apeks made) use the same service kit and since it’s a diaphragm you replace all of the important parts with a service.
Oceanic dropped support of CDX5 regulators over a year ago, parts are very limited. They decided to change some internal parts and have IP creep problems. I had similar issues with 2 new Oceanic CDX regulators that I bought to replace the CDX5, they had the same IP creep problems at 45 and 75 dives.
Parts for the Titan LX should not be a problem in the foreseeable future as nearly every (not all) first stages USD/AL has produced since around 1966 or so has used the same basic internals. I cannot imagine a time that it would not be serviceable, at least DIY.
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