Anyone Diving Barrie (Simco) this Sunday Oct.14th?

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Hello folks! My buddy and I are headed out to Simco to do some beach diving. I'm just reaching out to see if any others familiare with the dive sites are head out this coming Sunday. Perhaps we can join you or you can join us?
 
I would love to come out for a dive this Sun. Not sure if I can make the time. I am also not familiar with this dive site. Sorry that dosen't help you out but i'm always looking for others to dive with. If you are interested PM me and let me know how to get a hold of you.

Thanks
 
alchemist,

I've got to appologise for not reaching out to you. After making this post, circumstances prevented me from being able to check for responses. I ended up diving there as planned. Just me and a buddy.

We did Big Bay Point - Cool dive. If you ever go, it goes down to 90' but you gotta cover alot of ground before you get out far enough to reach that depth. So keep an eye on your presure; you don't wanna get out there with too little air ofcourse. We made the mistake of hanging out at 40 to 60 feet before getting down to 90 so we didn't get to stick around for more than 5 minutes without pushing limits. I would suggest, to get out there first and then fiddle around in the shallows after. It was our first time too so we didn't know any better. There were no boats so that was a bonus but bring a Dive flag anyway.
For your reference:
http://scuba2000.com/pdf_forms/big_bay_point_map.pdf

JC Morrison was our second dive. The wreck sits about less then 200 yards out marked with a white bouy. If you're standing at the most southern edge of the parking lot, facing the lake, south of the fountain, it should be at a bearing of 95 - 100 degrees. There were other divers everywhere around the shallows, training. There are also, fishermen out and about all over and around the wreck though which is the sucky part. The wreck sits at about 30 feet so you can basically descend near the beach and navigate out there (or follow the rope). We dragged out flag out there with us and it basically floated right up in the middle of the boats. None of the boaters moved away from the flag as legally required, but we didn't expect they would have anyway. But there was an incident. My dive buddy was managing the rope and the flag during our dive, and there were several occassions where we noticed the fishermen pick up our dive bouy and attempt to toss it further away from they're boat! This caused my buddy to get pulled up 10 feet pretty quickly! I know we were only at thirty feet but it's still dangerous to do that; lung over expansion (never hold your breath; but still...), or Boat proppellers!!! We did notice a couple boats motor right above our location. I would probably suggest not to tag a flag along with you to this site, however, you definitly should not go here unless you are absolutely confident that you will not need to asend and surface out there or else you risk getting wacked... or hooked for that matter! ;-)

Anyway it was a good day. And I would have been cool if you were able to hook up with us. Next time!

Cheers!
 
I am sorry you had to deal with the inconsiderate boater's we deal with on a weekly basis... we are trying to eliminate this.. hopefully before a diver comes to harm.. I belong to a diver's group that you can find on *facebook* - Tim's Diving Supplies Ltd.. you should be able to find it. if not let me know.. on this forum we all post upcoming events local to the area as well as group outings to Tobermory, Gravenhurst, Bala, etc... and there is also a Pumpkin Carving contest this up coming weekend.. see post on forum.. hope this helps.. P.S. this is also where single diver's such as myself hooks up with other diver's for dive's..

Did you see the underwater village...?

Cheer's Brtore
 
We dragged out flag out there with us and it basically floated right up in the middle of the boats. None of the boaters moved away from the flag as legally required, but we didn't expect they would have anyway. But there was an incident. My dive buddy was managing the rope and the flag during our dive, and there were several occasions where we noticed the fishermen pick up our dive buoy and attempt to toss it further away from they're boat!

:trainwreck:

# 1 :no There is NO law in Canada that requires a boat to remain any distance from a dive flag. If you were taught that somewhere, better have a discussion with them. The Safe Boating Guide from Transport Canada, "recommends" staying 100 feet away from a divers flag. The only law is for a boat flying an Alpha flag, that you must avoid them.

# 2 :shakehead: If the boats were out there fishing first, why would you think they would leave? Do you often stop whatever you are doing, if someone who arrived later indicates you're in their way? (I don't)

#3 If I was fishing from my boat and a float/flag tangled my line or rubbed up against my boat, then I'd probably move it, pull it, whatever to get it out of my way. Especially if I didn't recognize the meaning of a dive flag.

#4 If someone pulls on your flag, let some line go. If that doesn't do it, or not fast enough, LET IT GO. Then you can attempt to recover or not. And NEVER, EVER tie your flag onto your person. What if a fast moving boat didn't see it and snagged? If you don't boat, you have no idea how hard it can be to see a flag/float when you're moving. I've lost a flag, it wasn't worth sustaining an injury (it wasn't taken, it was an equipment failure, but I still made a conscious choice for safety over trying to recover it).

I dive that site now and then. I do not drag a flag, I sometimes set one near the shore where I will be ascending. I treat it as a virtual overhead, meaning I descend very near shore, swim to the wreck, swim back to shore and ascend very carefully in water shallow enough that boats are unlikely.

Lastly, we really don't want more rules/laws. Governments usually look at two things when they make new rules/laws. What's the easiest way? And what has the most economic benefit or the least loss. Look and see how many places there are around Barrie that deal with fishermen and pay local taxes. The folks that sell boats, repair boats, sell bait, tackle, etc. Now how many places are involved with diving and how much do they contribute. Push comes to shove, if we can't get along and share the wreck, the easiest fix will be banning scuba diving and it'll have the least negative economic impact on the community (I don't belittle the impact it'll have on the local dive shops).

I strongly support a no anchoring area around and on the wreck, otherwise the destruction will continue and soon there'll be no wreck. And that will harm both fishermen and divers. But, if you think you'll get boats/fishing banned from the wreck and surrounds, it'll never happen. And some signage to educate boaters on what a dive flag means. And perhaps some enforcement of the laws that prohibit damaging wrecks by divers and BOATERS.
 

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