Any advices or experience for Nauticam EPL2 housing?

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Hi all,
My Olympus PT-EP03 got serious leak problem, I shipped it to the repair center in H.K and they notified me the repair cost will be close to purchase a brand new one.
Here I have some options:
1. Repair it.
2. Buy a new PT-EP03.
3. Buy Nauticam Na-EPL2

Actually the leak problem already broke my EPL2, thus I'm not so confident about the brand now. But replace whole system cost too much.
So I wonder would it be a good choice if I buy the Nauticam NA-EPL2?
 
For the price of the Nauticam EPL-2 housing you could just about buy a new EPL-3 and its Olympus housing, then you could use your existing port/ports and have a better camera also. . .
Bruce
 
Yes, that's truth. But I just not so confident of the brand now, cause the housing only dive around 60 tanks and get so serious leak problem. But I really like the size and quality of the camera, that's why I wonder would it be a good choice if buy a Nauticam.
 
Any brand can have problems. My E-PL2 rig and oly housing has worked faultlessly in over 40 deep dives (100') strong currents and challenging conditions such as being dragged across the bottom. I agree quality is top notch and price can't be beat.

If you want nauticam, I believe Reef Photo has two used E=pl2 housings for sale asking around $700. You should give them a call.
 
Hi all,
My Olympus PT-EP03 got serious leak problem, I shipped it to the repair center in H.K and they notified me the repair cost will be close to purchase a brand new one.
Here I have some options:
1. Repair it.
2. Buy a new PT-EP03.
3. Buy Nauticam Na-EPL2

Actually the leak problem already broke my EPL2, thus I'm not so confident about the brand now. But replace whole system cost too much.
So I wonder would it be a good choice if I buy the Nauticam NA-EPL2?

Hi William,
The only way housing can leak bad is when the material of all buttons and the port/hole that hold the buttons and o-ring on body cavity have worn out, hence the new o-ring can not do much sealing too. This will happen much faster to all plastic housing than to an aluminum due to greater strength of the aluminum and in most cases the machining tolerance is better on alu housings.

If the Oly repair price nearing brand new price is most likely the main body is being replaced by a new one. Depending on design, some o-ring may be installed on the buttons, this way the damage by frequent use will occur to the main body meaning o-rings spins to cavity of the housing body. If the o-ring is placed in a body cavity and the buttons are the moving ones, the material of the button will be the one wearing off first.

If you do lots of volcanic sand diving like Lembeh, the sand is so fine it will enter into all o-ring cavity and do accelerated wear and tear pretty fast.

The other weak spot of a plastic housing body will be at the port connection. The longer and heavier your port is or when you camera gets knock often at the port, the housing side for port connection will be easily damaged if not deformed.

The final damage is repeated deep dive. The bigger your plastic housing foot print is, the less rigid it is for the same material thickness and type when compared to a smaller foot print housing. Its easy to see such dimensional deformation in a test chamber. Your housing is what I call a "pussy" rating, 40 meter class. Its not about diving deeper than 40 meters, but 40 meters being the maximum recreational diver limit, to be safe the housing should be at least 65 meter rating if not more because safety factor must be there with a good margin. One can't keep pushing to max limit all the time and we expect the housing will retain 100% the same shape ? I seen Sony or Canon kind of 40 meter plastic housing imploding at depths of less than 50 meters...sure they are 40 meters rated. Even my GoPro housing which is rated 180 feet, when I pushed it in a chamber to 210 feet, you can see the body starts to flex. Do that on much bigger foot print plastic housing, disaster is what u will get.

As will all plastic resin, keep your housing away from chlorinated water ( swimming pool ) and sunlight. Some lastic will weaken overtime under chlorine exposure and ALL plastic will die from UV ray.

If I were you get an alu one, Nauticam is surely a good choice and swallow the bitter pill that plastic housing can't "live "as long as alu ones.

How much is your PT-EP03 ? US$599 ? How many dives have you used it for ?

Take this as a learning curve. Housing of US$599 and 40 meter rated and plastic is EXPENSIVE, it is not low cost or cost effective. Unless u dive very little with it, that is not a wise investment. Flood ur camera and a good lens, that will be extra learning curve.

Sure all housings can leak but good alu housing do not experience dimensional distortion ( to the point of no return and leaking ) at 40-50 meters even u dive 500 times a year. Please send any housings, regardless of material or brand, once a year for annual service. Get them all o-rings on the buttons and etc etc replaced, just like our regulators, these toys are not maintenance free.

BTW I use alu and only Alu housings for camera bigger than my GoPro, even my coming "baby" size Sony RX100's housing will be alu ones, its on order............ Video version from Nauticam.

If u like UW imaging, raise the budget and forget plastic housing for camera size like yours and IF with change-able lens

I am so happy to be finally able to get cheap RX100 alu housing. I mean, as early as 5 years ago, its hard to get alu housing with 100% buttons/dial capability for something of RX100 size and complexity, at a mere US$1000 ( not video version ) was a wild dream.

UK-Germany is charging like US$500ish for an alu GoPro housing ( 100+ meter rated ) and that is only 3 buttons ( no dials on a GoPro ) and stupid toolbox kind of lock !!! UK-Germany releases housing for GoPro HERO :: Wetpixel.com

Happy shopping........
 
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Any brand can have problems. My E-PL2 rig and oly housing has worked faultlessly in over 40 deep dives (100') strong currents and challenging conditions such as being dragged across the bottom. I agree quality is top notch and price can't be beat.

If you want nauticam, I believe Reef Photo has two used E=pl2 housings for sale asking around $700. You should give them a call.

Thanks for your information, I'll visit their web site.

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Hi William,
The only way housing can leak....
Happy shopping........

Hi IyaDiver,

Thanks for your detail reply, but now I regret why I didn't come to ask for advices before I buy the housing!? :cool2:

Olympus repair center only notify me if I want to fix it, both front and rear parts of housing have to replace, and the cost will close to buy a new one, but they didn't told me what's the possibilities cause this leak problem.

I use the housing every weekend for 6 dives for continuity 7weeks before it got problem, the depth is 30~40 and all boat diving. So I think sand wont be an issue.
But what interesting is after the leak problem kill my camera, I try to find out where is the leak point(s), so I dive with empty housing. And I found 1 leak point is zoom gear wheel, that's really strange cause the sand(if there have) or distortion problem is not easy happen there I think.
Anyway I will not repair it now, and will try to get an alu housing or maybe change the whole system.

Just like you said I have to take this as the learning cost, you will not get what you not pay.
Thanks again and have a nice day~
 
Hi William,

Plastic housings are injection moulded and each and every housing has tolerance when resin dried-up and shape of camera took place. The amount of chemical/additive in the blend may also differ from 1 batch to another.

To why Oly wants to change the front and back at the same time is to guarantee you get the same batch between the front and the back. Either same batch or same tolerance, that is the main goal and they do not want to take chances. Adding to the misery of troubleshooting a housing of that size is the cost of the test chamber. They must have at least 1 BAR higher ( 10 meters deeper ) rating and size to fit the biggest and deepest housing Oly sells. Test chambers are not cheap, I mean a good one. If they do not have that test chamber in their service center, the more they will want both front and back housing replaced at once. You better check if ur Oly service center has test chamber, if they don't, tell them to stuff all their fingers up their azz. Oly sales are in millions of dollars a year in a decently rich country and a test chamber is a must have if they are Oly distrisbutor/importer or factory rep.

You hit the nail by diving 30-40 meters where your housing rating is only 40 meters. In an engine its like revving the engine to redline and maintain it at redline RPM all the time.......imagine the stress.

The focus/zoom gear leaking is quite easy to understand. It is probably the most used one and spinning a shaft ( that focus/zoom dial has a middle shaft ) 360 degrees over and over again has caused either the o-ring worn out or the shaft itself worn out or the cavity of the front housing where that dial is located........has worn out. Buttons have movement only 3-5mm at best, in-out-in-out the shaft will travel, unlike dials.

Now if Oly did not troubleshoot and spot the leak and simply condemn your housing by asking you to buy front and back part, which is an entire "naked" housing, take it up to the highest service manager and make a formal complaint. I saw there is a screw at the focus/zoom gear dial inside the housing :
Olympus PT-EP03 PEN Underwater Housing for Olympus E-PL2 ol-260589_5.jpg

If there is a screw, that means it is serviceable/remove-able. Tell them to change the o-ring/seal on that particular dial and chamber test to verify. For all you know, it could be a US$50 spare parts issue for just an o-ring and at the most a new dial assy if your dial's shaft is already scratched or nicked or whatever wear and tear causing mild leak......:D
If they refuse to do that o-ring and dial change, that means you have bought a disposable housing where no service can be done.......GoPro housing is like that but its cheap.....US$40.

6 x7 dives = 42 dives. That is so little underwater time to get a leak.

How cold was the water u dove ?
Plastic expansion or contraction from temperature change is also another weak point of plastic. Meaning it could leak some hot days and in cold days it is OK, depending on also wear and tear of sealing surface and the temperature extreme. Coefficients of Linear Thermal Expansion
If you see alu being 22.2 and arcylic extruded one being 234, or most plastic are in the 80+ category. That means a at least 4 times more expansion compared to alu.

If you dive with outboard powered boat and by accident you have got your housing exposed/splashed by gasoline, the leak you have could be from that gasoline. Some plastics can not bear exposure to gasoline, example arcylic.

Whatever you do, 1st thing is investigate that leaking zoom/focus gear and the fix for it. Fight for it and dont waste money yet on new housing.

Good luck.
 
Hi William,

Plastic housings are injection moulded ....
Good luck.
Hi IyaDiver,
Well, the reason why I shipped it to the repair center in Hong Kong is because I bought the housing from B&H online shop, I have no idea which department of Olympus should take my service inquiry ticket. And I make some calls and send some mails and found out that Olympus Taiwan branch office and their distributor in Taiwan has no ability to fix the housing, cause they even not sell it.
So their global customer service center suggest me to send my housing to Olympus H.K repair center to take a check, because this repair center is the nearest to Taiwan.

The temperature is all around 28°C. The place I dive is in Palau, temperature there is quite steady. So temperature should not be a problem. And the dive boat their has a tank put in the middle of the boat for the camera. So impact by gasoline can be neglect, I think.
Anyway now I give up to ask the repair center to fix it. And the only chance is when I get my housing, I will replace the o-ring inside the zoom gear wheel, and you are right the wheel is removable. If it doesn’t work…then I have to work harder to pay the bill of the new housing~

Good Day~
 
Hi William,
Do you know when the housing was damaged?
Rinse tanks on boats are notorious for damage to housings and causing leaks. . .most divers these days refuse to allow their camera gear to be placed into rinse tanks because of the damage caused.
Bruce
 

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