an object lesson in humility

[Frosty]

Well folks I've done just under 200 dives now and was thinking quite honestly I was pretty darn good.
Out on a dive boat and I'm the bloke with plenty of air left in his tank after a 45-50 minute dive. My boyancy I thought is bang on.
Well boy ohh boy did I recently get a reality check. I was lucky enough to get a dive or two (in one case about 20) with a couple of really experienced divers who have put in the hard yards to be really good.
Their sac rates made mine seem almost a joke.Their teqniques were just so refined I felt like a freshly minted OW diver
Now I have a new baseline to compare myself against.(currently not very well) The bar has been raised AGAIN.
Don't get me wrong I diddn't make a fool of myself but they were just so much more tuned up than I am.
So yea a real humility lesson

 

[flots am]

One dive was right borderline to beeing a deco dive the other was a series of easy caverns.
Now I have a new baseline to compare myself against. The bar has been raised AGAIN.
Don't get me wrong I diddn't make a fool of myself but they were just so much more tuned up than I am.
So yea a real humility lesson

Stay out of physical and virtual overheads until you have an actual workable plan for any reasonably possible failure, and you know what the failures could be. This usually requires training.

Simply having survived a dive does not mean you'll survive it next time.

flots.

 

[Frosty]

Stay out of physical and virtual overheads until you have an actual workable plan for any reasonably possible failure, and you know what the failures could be. This usually requires training.

Simply having survived a dive does not mean you'll survive it next time.

flots.

What are you going on about? -In dive 1 we had triple redundancy -Ie back gas,octo,pony AND spare tank/regs at 16 feet. we had a dive plan and dove the plan.
In dive 2 it was a series of short caves 20 foot was the longest with multiple exits to open water. again diving with redundancy.diving to a clear plan and diving in a manner that only one diver at a time was in a cave to avoid even a hint of silt blindness.

 

[JesperS]

I know that feeling oh so well. When I dive with my instructor it feels like I'm diving with neutral buoyancy turtle.

 

[Instructor_Tom]

Stay out of physical and virtual overheads until you have an actual workable plan for any reasonably possible failure, and you know what the failures could be. This usually requires training.

Simply having survived a dive does not mean you'll survive it next time.

flots.

glad to see you enjoyed your exposure to technical diving and it sounds like the guys you where with kept it safe and benign. if it's something you would like to explore do it safely by taking a cavern class and possibly a cave if you really get into it.

I just finished up my IANTD cave and honestly I have more respect for over head now that I did when I started. a lot can go wrong and once you lose the light all bets are off on making it out.

IANTD classifies a successful dive as one you return from, so congrats on your successful dives and hope you seek training to enjoy more of these types of dives.

T


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[fdog]

What you saw was the result of hard work - effort expended in learning the skills during a very demanding class, hard work by the instructors mentoring them, and most importantly, never letting up on trying to polish one's own skills; to be better on every dive.

If you follow the same path in education, you will aquire the skills, too. But most importantly, you will be offered the opportunity to train your mind, and forever find your viewpoint altered.

For example, you will look back on what you felt was over-the-top redundancy, and see none.

The door has been cracked open enough to see the other side...if you care to walk through, the road will be long and arduous...but you will be welcomed.


All the best, James

 

[flots am]

What are you going on about? -In dive 1 we had triple redundancy -Ie back gas,octo,pony AND spare tank/regs at 16 feet. .

You didn't mention any of this, however equipment still doesn't replace training.

 

[pocky21]

What you saw was the result of hard work - effort expended in learning the skills during a very demanding class, hard work by the instructors mentoring them, and most importantly, never letting up on trying to polish one's own skills; to be better on every dive.

If you follow the same path in education, you will aquire the skills, too. But most importantly, you will be offered the opportunity to train your mind, and forever find your viewpoint altered.

For example, you will look back on what you felt was over-the-top redundancy, and see none.

The door has been cracked open enough to see the other side...if you care to walk through, the road will be long and arduous...but you will be welcomed.


All the best, James

Print this out and stick it to the inside of your dive mask, along with a little light. It'll make the black-out drills easier.

Welcome to the dark side

 

[Frosty]

You didn't mention any of this, however equipment still doesn't replace training.

Sorry dude I diddn't see the need. Point I was making had nowt to do with equipment and all to do with diving teqniques.
I thought I was really good at the three, Air use,Boyancy control and efficent finning. THEN I dove with guys that really were very very good.
It wasn't so much a wakeup call that I'm doing anything wrong more a reality check as to just how much better I could be.

 

[TSandM]

What I love about this post is that you saw the bar raised in front of you -- and recognized it. I absolutely LOVE diving with less experienced people who look at what we are doing and see the difference . . . and WANT it. I don't know about where you live, but where I am, if you want that kind of skill, there are TONS of people willing to take you under their wing and help you get it.