sunkarm
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can i use a 100lbs of lift wing for a single tank dive for recreational dives? will there b a technical problem that i might injured myself?
thx all
thx all
100lbs wings lift for rec dive?
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Can you? Yes.
Is 100 lbs. of lift necessary, probably not, unless you're diving about 6 or 8 steel 130's or something like that.
In your wet suit you're sufficiently buoyant to float without issue.
The lift required of you wing is that which is necessary to provide enough lift to support your rig with a full tank and any accessories at the surface.
In other words, all you need is enough lift to float your B/C, tank, lights, etc.
For most divers making a recreational dive using an Aluminum 80, 30 to 35 pounds of lift is generally sufficient.
the K
Is 100 lbs. of lift necessary, probably not, unless you're diving about 6 or 8 steel 130's or something like that.
In your wet suit you're sufficiently buoyant to float without issue.
The lift required of you wing is that which is necessary to provide enough lift to support your rig with a full tank and any accessories at the surface.
In other words, all you need is enough lift to float your B/C, tank, lights, etc.
For most divers making a recreational dive using an Aluminum 80, 30 to 35 pounds of lift is generally sufficient.
the K
Sure you can. Do you need it? Nope, not likely. The only thing is that with a bladder that big, when you inflate at the surface, you can burn up a lot of air if you use your power inflator and fill if all the way. It will also tend to pocket more air underwater, so you just have to make sure your dumping air properly. The K is right, you just need enough to float you, your weights, and your gear. Recreational, single tank.......25-40 lbs is more than enough.
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Dude people he is asking if there's anything wrong with it, not if you think he should do it.
I assume you're thinking of using a 100 lb wing with a single tank, and yes there could be something wrong with it. A big, wide doubles wing can wrap up around your tank, it looks like this: http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/3207222-post13.html. Those pictures are a 51 lb wing with the gusset chord only partly tightened- when i take the gusset chord off its a lot worse then those pictures and difficult to dive. This is because the "taco" efect makes it very easy for air to get stuck on one side and if it's all stuck in the right side and you want to dump it...there's nothing to dump where your dump valve is. Can you roll your body to get the air where you want it- sure, but thats even tough rolling against the force of the air in the wing trying to keep you where you are. And that's my experience with a 51 lb wing, I can't imagine what a 100 lb wing would be like.
For reasons I wont get into I kept the gusset chord looser and as a young diver with a singles/doubles wing I struggled with this and sometimes no matter what body position I put myself in I couldnt not get that air out. Very dangerous. (and stupid on my part)
I assume you're thinking of using a 100 lb wing with a single tank, and yes there could be something wrong with it. A big, wide doubles wing can wrap up around your tank, it looks like this: http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/3207222-post13.html. Those pictures are a 51 lb wing with the gusset chord only partly tightened- when i take the gusset chord off its a lot worse then those pictures and difficult to dive. This is because the "taco" efect makes it very easy for air to get stuck on one side and if it's all stuck in the right side and you want to dump it...there's nothing to dump where your dump valve is. Can you roll your body to get the air where you want it- sure, but thats even tough rolling against the force of the air in the wing trying to keep you where you are. And that's my experience with a 51 lb wing, I can't imagine what a 100 lb wing would be like.
For reasons I wont get into I kept the gusset chord looser and as a young diver with a singles/doubles wing I struggled with this and sometimes no matter what body position I put myself in I couldnt not get that air out. Very dangerous. (and stupid on my part)
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Hi Sunkarm,
Most manufacturers put warnings on wings this size that they should be used for doubles only. Besides all of the reasons listed above, you will probably find that your buoyancy control will be much harder with too large a wing. Just for kicks, I once used my OMS 96 lb bladder with a single AL 80. It wasn't a good experience. I had a hard time adjusting my buoyancy because of the lag time it took for the air to position itself within the bladder. This did not occur with my 50 lb bladder. This is not to mention the excess drag caused by the physical size of the bladder compared to my 50. If you are diving with singles only, you only need about 30 lbs. If you switch back and forth with doubles, something like a rec wing should be fine (if you even need that much lift) Check this out in a pool with an instructor.
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George
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Most manufacturers put warnings on wings this size that they should be used for doubles only. Besides all of the reasons listed above, you will probably find that your buoyancy control will be much harder with too large a wing. Just for kicks, I once used my OMS 96 lb bladder with a single AL 80. It wasn't a good experience. I had a hard time adjusting my buoyancy because of the lag time it took for the air to position itself within the bladder. This did not occur with my 50 lb bladder. This is not to mention the excess drag caused by the physical size of the bladder compared to my 50. If you are diving with singles only, you only need about 30 lbs. If you switch back and forth with doubles, something like a rec wing should be fine (if you even need that much lift) Check this out in a pool with an instructor.
Safe Diving,
George
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There is the possibility of not being able to get all the air out of the wing if it uses a bungee system. 100 lbs of lift is big for even doubles. I dive lp72's, 85's and 95's with a 50 lb wing that with the drysuit is more than enough lift. find somebody who is raising anchors or something and sell it to them then get the proper size for what you'll be doing.
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sunkarm
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Now, this is the answer i am looking for!!!! Thx George
In that case how come OMS created such a wing..
zahgurim
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For carrying redundant sledghammers...
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