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Please, give me 1 reference to a published statement as a starting point to do so. Until then: PADI: Dive Deeper into Your Scuba Training "We can create the best opportunities for learning through high quality training." Five Ways you can Learn to be a Better Scuba Diver "When pushing at the...

That's fair enough. I edited my post to better reflect the sentiment, without putting words in your mouth or anybody else. It was intended as a short recap of the debate, not to imply anything you in particular said. I do agree everybody has the right to do as they please, including making...

Note my wording "respect the particular envelop". You are talking about expending the envelop. And yet, by your logic, the "recreational limit" has exactly the same meaning as the "OWD = 18 meters max" even outside of training limit: none. Both do not exist by the letter of the law, but are...

I meant on their own as in with another buddy, not solo. Who is this more experienced buddy? Somebody who has 10 dives more? 100? More advanced training? Or would you say it doesn't matter to much as long as you stay reasonably close to what you have learned, and respect that particular envelop...

E. You offer them a completely different dive, max 18 meter for the next day, and start AOWD + deep there. Maybe I have been lucky, maybe I only worked where D / E would be the default option without a doubt. I wouldn't want it any other way. If the manager would overrule me I would be...

Actually I do understand the semantic difference, I am arguing that limits for training SHOULD be seen as limits of training, going by the intend of the standards, not the letter of the (non existing / non applicable) law. The 40 meter limit is also not governed by law, but by agency...

And that right there is the focus point of the entire discussion. If you look at the letter of the law; - there is no law - let alone an international one - even if there was one it can't be enforced All rules / standards / recommendations published by training agencies are by that logic mere...

Btw, might be better to move the last 4 pages or so to another tread? OP has been answered.

@boulderjohn I found, read and enjoyed the article, you were right about the publication, Undersea Journal Q3 2018, page 13. I think the article is well written in general, but for me, it doesn't illustrate the point you are making here at all. On the contrary; it is published as part of the...

but it is a good discussion, and as far as I am concerned professional and constructive, so thanks for that. @boulderjohn I am very interested in the article, will find and read it later.

I think the point was to immediately take the tec course in the configuration you want to dive. If that happens to be SM, you pick up the tips & tricks straight away if you go with a SM tec class

This is exactly how to get more experience; by slowly doing more challenging dives together with more experienced divers. There is nothing in training standards that prevents you from learning local boat procedures. Quite the opposite, this is all encouraged, as long as it is via slow...

Little field tip for when you do accidentally soak your reg: take the little shrader valve out the inflator hose (you need a special screwdriver for that) and put an air gun on a different set of regs. Blow the water out the air inlet by blowing air in via the inflator hose. This way, the water...

Pfff quite an update overnight. I am with @Hartattack on this. I do agree that agencies do not have legal powers to dictate terms of general diving, hence they do the next best thing: they recommend. The recommendation is to stay within training limits AND experience. This means both apply...

Well see my post above; it seems PADI does in fact require students to have specific certifications. In addition, in the same instructor manual you find a chapter called "General standards and procedures" starting on page 15. Within these standards, you find the following definition of a deep...

actually we are wrong, I just checked the 2020 manual: Divemaster Course Prerequisites 1. PADI Advanced Open Water and PADI Rescue Diver certifcations (or qualifying certifcations) 2. 18 years old 3. Medical clearance attesting to dive ftness signed by a physician within the previous 12 months...

Yeah I have been thinking about that; it seems that standards wise you can indeed become a DM via OWD - AD - RES - DM, but DM itself does not qualify you to do deep dives* (even though the deep workshop is part of the curriculum). So if you would respect the standards, you can only assist in...

IIRC there is one sneaky caveat here; a DM needs to have deep dive experience, and adventure diver does not qualify you to dive deep...

I did sort of try this the other day. Double 12 liter (steel), nearly full, a very old 7 mm wetsuit, fresh water, alu plate. Dumped everything from the wing. I could not maintain buoyancy by lung control alone, but with some kicking it was easy to maintain depth or ascent. I stayed at depth...

In normal years, we visit Gairloch for about 2 weeks. Every season in an hour, some nice easy dives, beautiful nature. Gotta love it :-)