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    Had my first student today

    Yeah the medical students get to practice on cadavers. Dive instructors have no such luxury.
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    Had my first student today

    @noserider, Thank you for being the first of my critics to take the time to read those posts and to respond thoughtfully. I don’t agree with everything you said. For example, although you may not have have to deal with the same litigiousness we do in the US, you do have to deal with...
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    Had my first student today

    Oh, I readily admit I eventually returned fire, I also readily admit that my third message—the one I addressed to Wibble was snarky—but I know Wibble is made of stern enough stuff to both dish it out and take it, and he had already lashed out, so I don’t feel bad about that. But look at my...
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    Had my first student today

    @tursiops, They don't care. They really don't care. They just want us to be nice to the new guy, who appears to have finally kept his promise about leaving. If this discussion is a guide, this forum is no longer a place where standards can be supported without being accused of attacking...
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    Had my first student today

    Here, from pg. 31 of the PADI Instructor Manual, is the full list of courses and programs that divemasters can lead/teach without acquiring additional qualifications: Discover Snorkeling: No breathing of compressed air involved. Skin Diver: No breathing of compressed air involved. ReActivate...
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    Had my first student today

    L13, Believe what you want. You’re jumping though a whole lot of speculative hoops to create an imaginary scenario in which it’s possible that one particular shop in England might have tailored its DM program to focus more on teaching. And suppose your imaginations are correct. What does that...
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    Had my first student today

    It makes a big difference. In CW2, the instructor demonstrates the skills before the students perform them. Students are doing them for the first time, and they can screw up faster and more dramatically. That’s one reason the instructor does the teaching up close and personal. In OW2, the...
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    Had my first student today

    L13, If you could read the job postings at the PADI Pros web site, you’d have a different perspective on how representative the “many locations” you’re familiar with are. It may be true for some landlocked shops, but those places don’t hire many DMs, and the ones they do hire are often all...
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    Had my first student today

    Until yesterday, I never heard any DM or DM trainee use the phrase “my student,” first or otherwise. OP is not training to be an instructor. Even when he finishes his program, he still won’t be qualified to teach. So no, “all this effort“ could not have been re-directed to make the OP an...
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    Had my first student today

    Such a pity. You made so many friends here so fast I was hoping you’d share some of those people skills you learned in math class.
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    Had my first student today

    Then correct it—or can’t you be bothered? Tell me what you didn’t like about my first post (#29). Tell me how that warrants your abrupt reply (#30).
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    Had my first student today

    Chilly, Your moderation is too heavy handed and one sided. Re-read the thread. The nastiness originated with the OP after several instructors pointed out in a reasonable manner that the situation didn’t comport with standards. Tell me what was wrong with the way I presented the matter, in...
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    Had my first student today

    Should we have pretended to be excited that he had fun pretending to be an instructor?
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    Had my first student today

    Oh, please do enlighten us, Wibble. Tell us what circumstances and personal qualities of the people involved make it okay to ignore agency training standards and to let a new DMC with less than 50 dives provide instruction to people who paid to be taught by qualified instructors in good...
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    Had my first student today

    You do realize that the criticism here is not aimed at you but at the instructor who put you in an untenable position, right? Nobody expects you to know the standards yet because you don’t have the manual.
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    Had my first student today

    JRK44- This is where the instructors in the group get concerned. Maybe your description wasn’t clear, but it sounds like you taught the skills, which is a task reserved to the instructor, and it sounds like you didn’t explain the performance requirements, which you may not know because you don’t...
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    Do you tip your instructor?

    As an instructor, my perspective is that tips from students are never expected, solicited, or hinted at—but they are appreciated if they happen. The most common form of tip is for students to pick up the cost of lunch when we complete the paperwork and I give them “the talk” on how to use their...
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    Amazing how much lifesaving meds are overpriced in the US

    I did not suggest it’s right. I suggested that there are reasons more complex than simply greed. Each country has its own laws, its own mechanisms for paying for healthcare and its own citizens’ ability to pay out of pocket costs. We should expect pharmaceutical companies to charge what each...
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    Amazing how much lifesaving meds are overpriced in the US

    Are you saying Coors Beer is the result of a decades-long research project?
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    Amazing how much lifesaving meds are overpriced in the US

    Anybody who thinks my prior post is an endorsement of any specific action undertaken by that bogey man "Big Pharma" either did not read the post accurately or places too much confidence in his or her ability to discern the content of thoughts I have not shared. Anybody who suggests my prior...
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