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Yeah, hard to imagine a company releasing a $1k+ recreation device in the current climate.

You'd probably get some funny looks for mowing your lawn in January, but I think you'd be able to manage the humidity.

I'm in the same boat, but the problem is nothing else on the market meets my need. I have a working dive computer that I'd like to replace, but don't need to replace. I have a smartwatch on which the battery life is starting to drop off. I desperately want to replace both devices with a single...

Good. Last time we were in Key Largo, my wife and I found ourselves staring through the bottom of this boat in about 15’ of water at waving tourists.

When my wife and I did a DSD in Hawaii in 2013, the “confined water” portion was done in the ocean at a sheltered beach. We walked in and did the required skills. Then we eventually swam out from that beach for the dive. I don’t recall now if we returned to the shore between the skills and the...

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Disappointing (for us) lack of detail in the complaint.

I honestly have never seen a report like that. But regardless, what does any of this recent conversation have to do with Legal considerations for the Fire on dive boat Conception in CA?

Excellent way to find yourself swimming back to the dock or worse.

I think you misinterpreted my comment. My point was not that people should be afraid to render aid. My point was that people should be afraid to rely on the legal opinions of random internet commenters.

I would strongly encourage anyone who is uncertain of their legal risks and obligations to seek the advice of a competent attorney and not put any faith in the musings they may find on the internet, particularly those in this thread.

I think there are more possible scenarios. For example, watch assignments weren't properly communicated, watch schedule had changed and someone forgot, person on watch thought they'd sufficiently woke up the next person and were relieved but the next person wasn't all the way up, etc. I'm not...

Absolutely. I'm not sure I agree that a watchman is a backup in the case of fire, but even if we accept that as true, in the case of lots of other potential hazards, the watchman is the first (and often only) line of defense.

I believe that is correct. My current understanding is that what I've marked red in the picture is the engine room, orange is the bunkroom, and green is the head. (apologies for the crude markup, it should be taken as a sign only of my limited abilities, not a lack of seriousness). The only...

It's entirely possible I'm misinterpreting what I see, but it looks to me from those close ups like the passenger bunkroom is about the least burned part of that boat. In fact there are still distinguishable features to it. That would certainly lend credence to the idea that the fire did not...

Can you explain this for us civilians?

For those with maritime legal knowledge (i.e., not me): with this new knowledge about the apparent lack of a watch, the ramifications for civil liability to the crew, the captain, and possibly the owners are pretty obvious. But is there also potential criminal liability (for failing to stand...

Aft of the emergency exit hatch?

No. From the report, "At the time of the fire, five crewmembers were asleep in berths behind the wheelhouse, and one crewmember was asleep in the bunkroom, which was accessed from the salon down a ladderwell in the forward, starboard corner of the compartment."

This looks much worse for the crew than I think most of us hoped [edited to add: though we should all keep in mind that this is preliminary information and could change], but we now have an important data point regarding how the fire was able to grow to the point it did before being noticed...