Thats a bummer. My wife and I had a great time doing a resort course 20+ years ago and got certified right after we got home. My kids are also already athletic water rats who surf, snorkel and love being outdoors. We think that getting them out on the reef for a fun day with scuba would be a...
Hi All,
Been away for a long while, but my 15 and 13 year old kids are finally ready to (hopefully) catch the dive bug.
We are going on a cruise to Bermuda in two weeks and will have a day or two layover. Unfortunately, it was too short notice for complete certs, so we are going to have the...
Quick Summary- Wife and I have been certified since 1997, but diving took a back seat when we had kids.
They are now 6 and 8, good swimmers and we introduced them to ocean snorkeling. We want to take them snorkeling at Ocean Beach Park and Alewife Cove, but have never been there before.
I...
+1 to this. I stopped in on Greg a couple of weeks ago. Super nice guy and the Sandwich town beach seemed like a great place for some early season shore diving and socializing. The wife and I are going to be checking it out soon. Aqua Center has a web and a Facebook Page. I think he said they...
I'm reading the on topic replies about the value of tables vs non with interest and getting my hands on the new training materials. What I have had enough of is those skimming my comments and misrepresenting them.
The first sentence of your post accused me of "conflating" tables with deco...
Thanks Bob, and picking up the upgrade will not be a problem. I'm in the enviable (or unenviable depending on your budget) position of completely upgrading all of my and and the wife's gear from the bottom up.
Trying to examine, and possibly incorporate, all of the new available technologies...
I understand the distinction, and at the risk of sounding patronizing to you I did not say they were one and the same. What I said were the tables were the practical application of deco theory for a new diver, and a teaching tool that I feel is valuable.
From "Decompression Theory"....Voets
In...
Thanks again for all of the replies!
TS&M- I'm also a closet math geek, an over-analyzer and my wife wants to kill me over the binders that I have for all of my hobbies. If you add up all of the copy paper and page protectors I've used printing them at work over the years, it probably adds up...
John-- Again, thanks for taking the time to answer, although I think the term "raging" is a bit much.
I've gone out of my way to be polite to all who gave serious answers. My reading comprehension skills are fine too thanks, and I have read and reread this thread carefully. I just hung in...
Thanks for the info on the manual. I want something I can read myself..
As for streamlining I was not getting at what you are assuming.
I know some shops are better than others, and hopefully mine was not the standard experience.
For example, I could have lived without the 45 minute...
See my reply to TSandM. I am not trying to get into an endless, multi tiered discussion with every PADI instructor on this board. I've stated my position on what I valued out of my training. It differs from yours.
I "am" trying to figure out what PADI replaced the table training with, if...
Is this written into the PADI coursework to replace tables? Was anything specifically added to the official coursework to make up for the table training being removed? Something that I can look at if I buy the OW course materials?
That GAP program sounds great in theory, but is every PADI...
Bill- Before I get into this reply, please note that I'm trying to have an honest discussion and not disrespect you in any way. Your above quote gets to the heart of the matter for me in two ways, and I did read it carefully when you originally posted it.
Two things about it bother me:
First...
I have seen nothing that assures me that the two or so hours of class time saved by removing table training is beneficial for the student.
Coming from the perspective of putting my kids through a class, why would I spend my hard earned money with PADI for a less comprehensive education?
If I...
My question was not whether I will ever be forced to use tables, or about dissecting the various scenarios that everyone is posting to support thier views.
As far as I'm concerned, part of "training with the tools your are using" is understanding how they work. Spending time learning the tables...
I know how to do it both ways, and am fairly certain that I have the information I need now.... Thanks to you and all who took the trouble to answer...
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Nope, trims me out perfectly.
Maybe a thread with a guy asking a serious...
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