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    Is learning from PADI that bad?

    It seems as though you have two errors there. 1) You do not mean 'requires.' Requires means: "Need for a particular purpose; depend on for success or survival." Since PADI divers successful dive and do not exhibit disproportionate mortality (remembering that PADI certifies 950k divers a year or...
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    Weightloss = adjust the weight belt...

    Congrats on the weight loss! Ok, so, a delicate question... What did you lose? As in what type of weight. What you lost means more than how much you lost. Personally, I'm cursed with a dense body. I was working with a personal trainer recently who, after doing body fat measurements...
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    Question about PADI AOW dives

    I did buoyancy, search&recovery, and night (plus the required deep and nav). The nav and search were challenging and fun. They go together really well too. I think these were the best/most important two for me. I learned a lot and got some valuable real world experience. Real world as in my...
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    What would you do different, if you had PADI OW certification to do all over again?

    I somewhat agree with your premise but take it in a different direction. I think people should progress from wherever they are to wherever they want to be in a fairly continuous way. Every experience should be a blend of familiar and new/challenging elements. I'm talking about diving but not...
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    How would you handle this?

    Why would that be relevant if burglary is not an apt analogy? My point, not to get bogged down in an analysis of an analogy, was that the end of an act is not necessary the point where the act is committed. Since hunting does not require actually taking game (a hunter need not be successful...
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    How would you handle this?

    I might not be confused. About that you are correct. Speaking just of US law, there doesn't seem to be a breaking requirement. Trespass with intent to commit felony / crime seems to be covered whether or not entry was forced, a detail which doesn't really matter to my analogy but does speak to...
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    How would you handle this?

    Is that how they would be treated in the real world? I don't have any personal experience with burglary from any side, but I would be surprised if a person who went in/out of a house five times while emptying it of valuables would be charged with 5 counts of burglary. Can you provide any...
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    How would you handle this?

    It's an interesting question and I won't claim to know the answer, but; while the act of entry makes it burglary, is it only burglary during the moment of entry? Or does it "latch" at the moment of entry and stay burglary until the entire crime has finished? If, for example, the burglar...
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    How would you handle this?

    You are right that any existing case law would be interesting. However... 1) It is not much of a stretch to say someone walking from the water with his catch in his hands is at that moment engaged in the act of taking. Otherwise a burglar would cease to be engaged in burglary as he walked out...
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    How would you handle this?

    Isn't that putting the cart before the horse? Seems as though Bob should be more concerned about prosecution under 77.15.210. http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=77.15.210 I doubt he will be charged of course, but if charged he could end up with a conviction if a jury agreed with the...
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    How would you handle this?

    There are two practical problems with that approach. 1) Since perception of right and wrong are culturally, genetically, and experientially biased, a universal application of that approach (where everyone follows their own code) results in chaos. You batter the rapist, his brother kills your...
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    How would you handle this?

    No, Bob, I am not part of the apathetic robot party. :) Humans...primates in general...are hard wired with social knee jerk behaviors. We see something and we react in the heat of the moment. When that happens, the results are usually flawed. In the best case we end up with a patriot act or...
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    How would you handle this?

    Shrug. It's a good agenda so no worries. My agenda as you call it is that we - humans - are at our best when we live by laws, when we promote a uniform order, when we acknowledge that behavior need not be desirable to be acceptable. When we in the USA follow the principles upon which our...
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    How would you handle this?

    You admit that? Let's talk about that admission. Now, if you said the real problem was damage to an ecosystem, that would be reasonable. If you said the real problem was the ethics of killing for entertainment, again you would have a position worth supporting. If you said there was...
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    How would you handle this?

    You miss the point. The harm of his actions stop when he stops acting. Maybe he would have come back the next day, maybe not, but the harm was controllable because it stops when he does. There are socially responsible ways of stopping actions, which Bob didn't take at first. It's like.. The...
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    How would you handle this?

    I think Rooster is mad about exactly the right thing. Look at the harm, and look at the control each party retained. Hunter: he killed a cephalopod. His harm is direct, small, controlled, and ends when his actions end. Bob: He roused a mob, made them angry, and cut them loose. His harm is...
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    What would you do different, if you had PADI OW certification to do all over again?

    Fairly recent OW certification here... I would have done it sooner. Oh, wait, I guess that isn't really an option in life. Darn linear time! I actually have much more appreciation of my OW certification experience now than I did just after certification. I've now dived with fairly...
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    How would you handle this?

    I didn't read the whole thread... More than I should have though. 1) to Bob's question of how to handle... I personally despise knee-jerk reactions. The octopus hunter's "I'll come back and do it again tomorrow" was a knee-jerk. Frankly so was Bob's confrontation. If you see someone doing...
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    Dive shop requirements for equipment purchases

    You are missing the point. Suggest a customer hold off on buying gear? That's fine. I'll say "no" and buy what I want, very little harm done. Refuse to do business with a customer for unilateral reasons? Claim there is some rule/law that bars the sale? You can go to whatever punishment...
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    Tank Storage for Winter

    As long as the tanks are in good condition and secured against rolling/sliding/banging around, yes it's safe. Look at it this way: the 5-year hydro requirement is a DOT (dept of transportation) reg., at least in the US. Tanks are designed to be transported in trucks, full, with normal care. As...
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