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IIRC - I believe that most training agencies DEFINE "recreational" scuba as diving in buddy pairs, with each diver maintaining a supply of air sufficient to get them both to the surface in case of an OOA emergency.

Hmmm. I'm guessing it's ....

I have a different take on the scuba rules. I don't view them as my enemy, but as my friend. They are just another tool. Some are a helpful shorthand which enables me to remember things I should remember. Some help me to communicate efficiently with others about plans, expectations...

"when the state makes the rules" - When is that? "pushing the edge slightly doesn't lead to immediate death" - Who said it did?

Oh, I've broken the "rules" too, lots of times, but I don't boast about it on the internet, or recommend it to younger divers. Most of the time when I broke the rules, it wasn't a problem. Sometimes, it was.

Yes, I think it does serve a purpose. When I started diving everyone used Navy tables and did their own thing, and many people (including me) were doing dives they were not adequately equipped or trained to do. In Hawaii, the black coral industry and the fished-out shallower reefs were sending...

I know I'm resurrecting an old thread, but my wife and I are planning a trip to Utila in March and I wondered if anyone can provide an update on Dengue, Malaria, etc.

Rhone Man - That was a good read. Thanks for sharing. I've never been in a down current like the one you describe. Funny the guide didn't forewarn you about it, though. BTW - My wife and I sometimes do the morning dives and pass on the PM dives. This depends on how the diving is, whether...

Take it easy, guys....

Hey markm, We are all going to die. I only hope that when I go, I will have the class to do it in a way that doesn't kill anybody else, doesn't screw things up for other people, and doesn't bring discredit to the sport of scuba diving.

Many have interpreted this thread as a political issue. Many thought that I was in favor of more regulation of diving. In fact, though, I am talking about the advice that experienced divers give to other divers. I am saying that we as a community would benefit by talking in terms of...

As to the "rules and regulations" for recreational scuba, I try to abide by the following: 1. Plan your dive. 2. Dive with a buddy. 3. Perform a buddy check prior to the dive. 4. Don't hold your breath underwater. 5. Don't dive deeper than 130 (or whatever) feet. 6. Stay within NDL limits...

Another way to look at it is this: People died for our right of free speech, and we here are honoring their sacrifices by exercising that right.

Well, I think I can help you with this idea of "Privilege": Think of making love to your wife.....:eyebrow:

DaleC - When I use words like "irresponsible" and "reckless", I am not talking about "being an individual" or "not following the crowd". To give you a flavor of what I am talking about, you need to read this story: Fearless spirit, tragic result | The San Diego Union-Tribune

Mike - You say this was an AOW dive with AOW rules - were they diving AL80 tanks? Were your tanks HP-100 and re-filled to 3,500 psi after each dive? I'm assuming a few things here, like similar profiles to the outside of a wreck, and you are not an air hog, but it seems you were starting with...

I was criticizing the U.S. gov't. for imposing limitations on speech, gun ownership, and every other constitutionally-guaranteed freedom that we possess. It's a subject we are extremely touchy about.

Well, I have the privilege of being able to dive, but I have the right to free speech and to bear arms. The government can impose limitations on my diving, but not on my free speech or gun ownersh....,,,? Oh, wait...

DaleC - My position is that divers have "privileges" instead of "rights", and that "privileges" for the many can be lost through abuses by the few. And I think that is a much better message to convey to all divers, and especially new divers.

Yes, LOL. On SO many levels...