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Buoyancy controls is a significant part of the curriculum, but remember that prior to entering a fundamentals program one needs to be a certified diver. The industry needs to help here. The buoyancy window in fundamentals to pass is 5 feet from target depth. Again, people put the emphasis on...

GUE standards. 1.7 The M is not required. Best, Bob http://www.gue.com/Training/Standards/GUE_Standards_2006_ver4.pdf

Hi all, I have read the entire thread and just wanted to say a few things. First to the OP, I can easily see your frustration. Of course this is not the intended outcome from a fundamentals course. The goal of a fundamentals instructor, is to be both an educator AND an evaluator...

Jim There are several reasons the process is slow.The commitment made by the founding members of GUE was to maintain quality over growth. Making good quality instructors is the hardest thing GUE does. one must complete fundamentals, and Tec 1/Cave 1, then they must audit a complete...

NORMALIZE? compared to what? GUE is not interested in quadrupling the instructor base unless it can be done with high quality people/instructors. These people and the degree of dedication to get there/stay there, are not easy to come by. GUE continues to grow the base at a slow and steady pace...

This will NOT be two different courses. One course, one instructor two standards. Any fundamentals instructor can certify either rec or tec. Will be clear in standards. A student can do the upgrade with ANY current Fundies Instructor. Best,Bob

FWIW, I think there will be a pretty good success rate utilizing the new standards for rec. We are most likely going to do one in Cayman's in March 5-8th, and possibly one in Fl mid feb, around High springs. Let me know if you are interested. Both are warm enough for wet. Cayman's....much...

This is totally dependant on your time frame of wanting to move towards Tec. If it is in the near future,(2-3months) seems like doubles is the way. If it is in your future but more distant, 6 mo. to a year or more) Go singles. Learn all you can. Most of what you will learn will pertain to both...

Gentlemen, thank you for the support. I'm FAR from the best, but do have a desire for constant improvement. I'm fortunate enough to be surrounded by and surround myself with really good people. there are alot out there. Many in our organization and many outside of it. The goal should be for...

Eric, There are two different types of people that want to dive. The I'm going on my honey moon wanna see the fish, dive a couple times a year people, and the I've wanted to do this forever, didn't have the time or money, now I do, wanna get going how do we progress person. We do a...

Practicing the wrong thing the wrong way is hard to reverse. One of the biggest issues I see when people show up for Tec class is that they have gone out to practice(as requested) but during the practice no one gave them GOOD critical feedback in a timely manner. Thereby creating a muscle...

While there have been those that trash other agencies/people, this is more of a people skills issue than anything else. Most that handle things this way handle other things in life this way. Judge people for individuals actions. Agencies for handling how their representatives represent...

Where in upstate NY? I'm in upstate, that puts you pretty close relatively<G>, Best., Bob

Jerry This will not happen in the lifetime of the current training committe. Best, bob

What this means is the instructor is now limited to a max in water of 4 people. In the past, some would put six in the water at once. This is really only an issue with 4 students. No single person classes are sanctioned. 2 people make one team. 3, makes one team. 5-6, you have two...

To be clear, the currrent fundamentals standards do not differentiate from a recreational diver and one that wants to take tec or cave next week. We already agreed that they are two different types of divers needing different levels of performance. In the past in order to meet the...

Check bouyancy at the beginning of the dive when you are the heaviest to be sure that with a loss of wing you still have the ability to get yourself off the bottom. Then again as advised at the end, with the ability to complete shallow stop. Only checking at the end is a common mistake made...

Kim we looked at that and could not find way to break the content into smaller lots that didn't belong together.

YES WE DO. We can not think of a single thing to take out of this class that we would want our students out there without. Believe me, we tried. What is there is what we believe needs to be addressed. The only potential wiggle room,was in the student to instructor ratio's. All agreed...

WOW. you people can really type fast. As someone who hunts and pecks on the keyboard, I will try to respond quick enough that all questions have not been answered before I finish typing<VBG> I'm glad there is so much interest. FWIW, the disappointment by some here is actually expected. if...