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Excuse me, but isn't it the GW crowd who claims there is no longer room for debate? So now we need only a 51% majority in science for something to be accepted as fact? And, as I remember p must be less than .05 to be significant...i.e., anything less than 95 % likely is still considered chance...

I did a simple search and found a long and diverse list on Wikipedia of scientists who dispute one or all of the following conclusions: 1) GW is taking place; b) C02 is responsible c) C02 is rising c) humans are responsible for GW; d) GW will be severe or harmful. This list includes professors...

I am well aware that climate is not weather. My point was that computer models form the basis of both hurricane predictions and GW predictions and the hurricane experience suggest that such models are not infallible. And taking thermometer readings for a few years, decades or even centuries...

So storms never happened before the age of the automobile? My point about the hurricane seasons of the past two years was that they were both predicted to be above average and they were both duds. So much for prognosticating. As for looking for truth in the relative numbers of scientists...

So you are giving up cars and dive boats to save the planet and the Canadian birds? If they are so polluting, why do you use them? We all need to cut back, so let's start with those who think GW is a problem. those of us who don't, we get to keep our SUVs. Fair deal? And what exactly would...

The scientific evidence is not overwhelming. The facts and not "plain and simple". The fact that you use such phrases in a debate such as this indicates "true believer" status. How can predicting the climate of the entire globe decades into the future, knowing not only what will happen but why...

Erring on the side of caution sounds nice, but like many platitudes, it is nonsense. It depends on the "cost" of erring. People die diving, so why take a chance by going underwater hooked to a metal cylinder of air? Why send your children to school, safer to keep them home. We trade value for...

This presumes, once again, that human carbon emissions are even a problem. The drive to fuel efficient cars is good, but it has nothing to do with global warming. It has to do with the price of fuel. People will buy cars according to how cheaply they can be bought and run, not according to...

Agreed, but the GW debate centers on carbon dioxide as a pollutant and whether it is or not, and what levels are dangerous. Who says that it is? If CO2 is NOT contributing to GW to any great degree (and yes, there is still NO consensus on that), then it is not a pollutant and curbing its output...

Let's summarize: Global warming advocate's position: global warming is a fact; it is beyond question; no rational person would dare question it; anyone who even suggests that there MIGHT be an alternate explanation, or perhaps no warming at all, is an idiot, a Republican, watches Bill...

It's hopeless discussing this with true believers, for whom GW (global warming, not George Bush) is a religion, not a subject for rational scrutiny. By the way, has anyone noticed that, post Katrina, the last two hurricane seasons were duds? Didn't the cover art for Gore's movie feature a...

Dumb question, from someone not an expert in regulators: how often is a free flow due to a first stage, versus a second stage, malfunction? Is first stage failure very common, e.g., from freezing?

Ocean Divers is good, and I second the thoughts about larger boats. New divers are fearful of crowds, but six people on a small boat can be more cramped than 25 on a larger boat. Big boats are more stable, generally provide a better platform for entry and exit and have some amenties, like a...

What exactly are you feeling? I can't tell...is it true vertigo (spinning or moving sensation), anxiety, pre-syncope (the feeling before losing consciousness)? A combination of all of these? How long does it last? Do you have residual vertigo, ear pain, lightheadedness or ear ringing after...

The amount of money lost here is small, but this raises an interesting legal question if the amount involved was more signficant. For example, instead of a fin, what if a regulator and a computer were lost costing a total of, say, 2000 dollars? It would be interesting to hear from the lawyers...

The Key Largo Grande, formerly the Sheraton, has a man-made white beach which is actually fairly nice, on the gulf side Right now, the place is having specials and certain nights run 99 bucks. It's a very nice place, mm 97 I believe, very close to Ocean Divers and other ops.

Blood, like other liquids, is virutally "non-compressible" at the depths we are talking about here. Thus, fluid dynamics (blood flow, urinary flow, lymph flow, cerebrospinal fluid flow) proceed at depth the same as they do on the surface. This is important also for those diving with...

I would think it is easier and cheaper to rent a car. The only flights are to Key West, yet the best diving is in Key Largo, barely an hour's drive (and a very easy one at that) from Miami. As for laying on the beach, stay in Miami, the keys, particularly the upper keys, are not known for...

August... I would normally go to the Keys in October, but I have a temporary dental crown for several months and have some upcoming minor surgery, so that trip may have to wait...

This thread makes me sympathize with the flight attendant who recently tossed an Australian woman off the plane when the woman said "fair dinkum" after being asked if she would take bloody mary mix instead of tomato juice...apparently, the attendant thought it was an :confused:obscene response.