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I agree. However, we weren't discussing whether any methods are wrong. We are discussing the source of tension between DIR and non-DIR divers. ------------------------- What is the misunderstanding? I'm not being facetious.

So when as a teenager and you thought your parents misunderstood you, you didn't think they were wrong? misunderstand. Verb: Fail to interpret or understand (something) correctly. Fail to understand correctly = understand incorrectly = wrong understanding. Yeah, like Republicans vs...

Your guess is incorrect. :) Here's the essence of the issue: Had Jarrod said "because divers disagree, there can be tension," this whole conversation would not have taken place. Instead he says (paraphrasing), "because other divers misunderstand us, there is tension." That puts the onus for the...

Hi Crush. Just a minor point, but I am not complaining about DIR/GUE. Never have, will not unless they both gain an obligation to me and fail to meet that obligation. I.e. unless they sell me some training and welch. Short of that, why would I? It has no force in my life, and no impact except...

Even so, I have been in a several scubapro ADs and relatively few acknowledge the existence of or display the scubapro backplate systems (X-Tech?). So even where the shop caries a brand that sells BP/W, they don't sell them. I assume it is a familiarity issue at that point.

LOL...and here I was trying to avoid (further) derailing the thread. :D Skippy was good. ;) (HR already has me and every other manager above a certain level booked for a 4-session, 3-day-per-session monstrosity. :screwy: It's not KT though.) Re: the thread: It's not the standard because...

That makes sense. So BWRAF (or whatever you use) is, "show me you are good, " rather than, "I'll verify you are good." When learning to fly I had just the opposite drilled into me (i.e. that checks should be tactile - don't just say the fuel pump is on, touch the switch and verify by feel)...

Cool, that is what I hope to do - learn from every branch I can. Personally I would love to take a GUE fundamentals course, though I need a bit more experience first I think. And I apologize for the incorrect "you". LOL, believe me I've attempted not to. Someone posted about people in stores...

That's the magic of language...of art in general...in a nutshell. A lot of our interpretation comes from sources outside the text. You are very familiar with DIR so you have a whole set of sources that predispose you to a particular interpretation. I have basically zero knowledge of DIR (first...

Um what? I don't think I even mentioned equipment did I? I was talking about what he wrote, and the impression it gave. Oh, I did mention computers. Sorry, yeah, I disagree with him. I doubt he cares about my opinion though. I don't know about that, literally. I certainly don't want to...

I would agree that you don't blithely reconfigure another diver's gear, and of course you shouldn't do anything your buddy is actively uncomfortable with, but are we really talking about reconfiguring/fixing or was it touching? On one of my buddy checks my equally noob buddy had a hose trapped...

FWIW, the folks here will steer you towards a BP/W system. They are not wrong. They are not wrong, but if your goal is diving on minimum dollars, you can go cheaper. Basic scuba kit: $480 http://www.scubatoys.com/store/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=Mares_Axis_Aeris_BC_Pak Add personal gear: $190...

Interesting take. My experience with humans consistently contradicts it though. :) "Because DIR's insistence on standardization is frequently misunderstood" Misundersood = lack of understanding (usually to the point of error). Who has a lack of understanding? Certainly not Jarrod or other...

Hi Hi True and never contested. However, having a right to do something, and it being right to do that thing, are totally unrelated propositions. Yes, that is my point. This has nothing to do with ragtag militias. People who have a choice, and care about results, often choose diversity...

Agreed, with the caveat that choice of life support system may not map to "basic gear"... Taking an infantry unit... Everyone has a rifle. Rifles are basic gear for infantry soldiers. But not every soldier is issued the same type of rifle. In the NATO world most are issued 5.56x45mm (m16...

Everything I've read indicates he would strongly disagree with your word substitution. I hope I'm wrong. From my perspective the right choice will always depend on circumstances. There may be many right choices, and they may or may not be what you chose, but everything in life is compromise...

I'm willing to accept that I'm misinformed. I've only read a few things Jarrod wrote and I'm judging him entirely by his writings. Do you understand my position? Can you point me to anything Jarrod has done or said which indicates that my critique of his position is invalid? According to...

Oh I'm not going to reject the message because of the messenger, even though I have a total world view disagreement (in other words, I am an engineer and he obviously isn't) with that particular messenger. :-) So far my only decidedly anti-DIR gear is a computer, and the only real argument...

Ever read any of Jarrod J.... (not going to look his last name up again)'s writings? "DIR's place in history is assured given its role in introducing a new paradigm to the diving public..." Or my favorite, " Because DIR's insistence on standardization is frequently misunderstood, it sometimes...

Switching from BCD to BP/W? It wasn't. I was a bit overweighted (more than 4lbs over - judged "not worth messing with" when we did a weight check) and performed as well as the other students despite their gear familiarity edge.