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    An age-old question: ways to 60m.

    "That's a very plausible observation and not a contradiction." meant that your observation that you often heard divers complain about overbreathing their regs and not getting enough air at depth, does not contradict the idea that the problem is caused by internal airways resistance in their...
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    Question How to remain still

    Position of tank is also influenced by shoulder straps, maybe they are all too loose and your tank hangs too low. After descending, in horizontal position, move your tank a little further up and tighten the shoulder straps and belt.
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    An age-old question: ways to 60m.

    The yankees dive so cautiously because their healthcare costs so much. No free chamber rides, can you imagine?
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    An age-old question: ways to 60m.

    That's a very plausible observation and not a contradiction. High airway resistance in the lungs *feels* like the reg is hard to breathe. Same like immersion pulmonary oedema (IPO): diver signals out of gas and switches regulators, but the new reg isn't better because the problem is actually...
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    An age-old question: ways to 60m.

    The issue with gas density in deep air has nothing to do with overbreathing the regs. It's about the internal airway resistance within your lungs. At 60m, your lungs cannot achieve the same maximum SAC rate with air as with trimix, or with air at 30m. If high workload happens (planned or...
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    An age-old question: ways to 60m.

    When people denounce deep air diving today more than 25 years ago, I don't think it's because people got more risk averse. It's rather that back then we didn't know better, had a few misconceptions about adaptation to nitrogen narcosis. But we know more about it today, and we have more accident...
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    An age-old question: ways to 60m.

    If you'll be back a year later with a CCR anyway, sure, why not skip a 62m dive on air? Think about the many beautiful wrecks you still want to see, and that one serious accident will end your diving career. Particularly if you love wreck diving and want to continue doing it a lot, you would...
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    An age-old question: ways to 60m.

    You missed my next sentence: "Not very reliable in practice, but at least there's a chance." I think if you're narced, your buddies will notice it before you do. When your brain slows down, how will it notice that it got slower, that your response time got longer, your situational awareness is...
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    An age-old question: ways to 60m.

    That doesn't contradict what I wrote; the origins of GUE lie in the WKPP, and many of their standards and procedures are obviously aimed at safe cave diving in teams (and then spawn criticism by people who find them unnecessary in open water ocean dives). Deep air for example is more dangerous...
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    An age-old question: ways to 60m.

    Regarding GUE, I think it's because their training program was initially all about cave diving. In open water, you can mitigate the risk of nitrogen narcosis by ascending as soon as you feel it coming. Not very reliable in practice, but at least there's a chance. Far inside a cave or a big...
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    An age-old question: ways to 60m.

    So did your buddy explain why he left you to go to 55m alone with a small tank of air; was that the plan you had discussed before the dive? It's a usual story of nitrogen narcosis: divers forgetting to check their depth and SPG, not noticing that they're far deeper than their buddy, forgetting...
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    An age-old question: ways to 60m.

    The thing with hypercapnia due to workload while breathing gas with high density is described here: https://dan.org/alert-diver/article/performance-under-pressure Full paper: https://www.omao.noaa.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Rebreathers and Scientific Diving Proceedings 2016.pdf page...
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    Best way to lubricate yourself to get into a wetsuit?

    I have a very tight 7mm and found it easiest to jump from the boat with the wetsuit in my hand, don it in the water, then climb back on the boat to close the zipper.
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    An age-old question: ways to 60m.

    Oh, respect is what you desire? Let's recall a few things about your "heroes": "The Rouses were considered a formidable diving team, but their overconfident and ego-driven attitudes sometimes led them into risky situations. They lacked experience in deep wrecks and were relatively...
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    An age-old question: ways to 60m.

    Nitrogen "narcosis" doesn't mean you're unconscious, that happens only in extreme cases. It usually means you're mentally slow, sleepy, confused with delayed response, dizzy. Symptoms also include being euphoric, over-confident, making bad decisions; some hallucinate. The Rouses were obviously...
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    An age-old question: ways to 60m.

    So you conclude that taking too long to get free from debris, being unable to follow their line out, having trouble finding the exit, not finding their stage tanks, was all just bad luck and had nothing to do with the fact that they had high workload and stress for 30min at 70m/230fsw on air and...
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    An age-old question: ways to 60m.

    Their accident is such a case that I meant. They had experience with deep air and felt safe. But on their last dive a problem occurred (trapped inside a wreck) causing a lot of workload and stress, eventually ending in a deadly emergency ascent. With trimix and a clear head they maybe could have...
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    An age-old question: ways to 60m.

    Bret Gilliam's world record deep air dive to 466fsw is described here: https://bretgilliam.com/assets/gilliam-world-record-deep-dive.pdf Some seem to miss that workload plays a big role. As long as you're completely relaxed like Bret Gilliam, deep air can work without much impairment. Of course...
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    Negligent homicide: Swiss diving instructor convicted over student's death

    There's an earlier, more detailed court document about a compelled prosecution at https://entscheidsuche.ch/docs/BE_ZivilStraf/BE_OG_999_BK-2021-227_2021-10-13.pdf The state attorney first refused to prosecute the case; the victim's relatives filed a complaint and the court compelled...
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    Negligent homicide: Swiss diving instructor convicted over student's death

    Original report: https://www.msn.com/de-ch/nachrichten/other/fahrl%C3%83%C2%A4ssige-t%C3%83%C2%B6tung-tauchlehrer-wegen-tod-von-sch%C3%83%C2%BCler-verurteilt/ar-AA1FjzWF The case is a bit interesting regarding the responsibility. The fatally injured student was a PADI OWSI instructor himself...
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