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Wow... all I can say is eye opener. Assuming of course that Im hearing honest opinion: Minority = Aid if you are able. Majority = Aid only after you have evaluated the risk. Disregard what you were taught to do in OW and AOW evaluate the situation determine your ability to control the...

TheWetRookie, I am glad you have learned alot from the posted thread. I am currently in some disagreement with Clayjars negative comments to me and his overall melodramatic comments regarding carrying pain for the rest of your life and mother theresa and spawn of silt. Actually that was a bit...

:rofl3: spoken like a true infantryman.

Sorry you took offense, obviously you dislike being *evaluated* as much as I do. I dislike being insulted as much as you do and yet for some reason you seem to cling to this belief that some class you took somehow makes you more capable and thus gives you more latitude in the specific situation...

I have shown you what to do Clayjar, you are refusing to accept the fact that your evaluation could be as much of the problem as your assistance. You set up multiple "straw men" in your arguements, complete with their responses to the given situation. My earlier point being to stick to exactly...

Okay since were stuck on hypotheticals here and similarities. Heres one for you to ponder. The guy is out of air (you have no idea why, a GWS snacked on his regulator) seeing you 20' away the guy heads to you, trying to get your attention possibly waving his arms, he gets to you, and signals...

Naive?(whatever), but as I said stop posting wild hypotheticals and stick to the confines of the article. I can dream up a thousand reasons why not to aid somebody and another thousand reason why you should in a thousand other diffrent hypotheticals. Were talking about the article and the...

If we stick to the specifics of the article we have a much clearer picture and possibly a much more concise reason for some concern. If you believe as I do that first reactions/statements are the actions/statements usually followed in a stress situation (if you dont, it doesnt really change...

Again the conditions are being placed that do not yet exist. A diver has approached you and signaled out of air per the article, you refuse because you a)dont know him b)dont accept he is in total control c)dont know if he is panicky enough to present a risk to you. Because you dont know A-C...

Should have thought to check online, http://www.dtmag.com/05-07-articles.shtml The Where the Buck stops editorial and the Lost Boy article.

Anyone get and read Dive Training Magazine? If so what is your opinion on the post entitled "The Lost Boy: A story of panic and personal accountability? In brief, the story revolves around a divers comments "Marty" about a diver who went out of air on a dive Marty was on; "To be honest...

Bad Buddies? Didnt think I had dived enough to have one until my latest trip. Hooked up with a group of 4, an instructor, an ow student, a rescue diver, and myself AOW. Figured great, I dive with my wife alot and frankly its a pain in the *** keeping track of exactly where we are in relation...

34 of us were here http://www.oceanlight.com/lightbox.php?x=san_clemente_island__california__usa__location although none of those pictures are from our dives. Vis was about 30-35' 61 deg. We all took a trip from Wed-Sat on Truth Aquatics boat. They can be found here...

Arms reach, works well =). I used to move ahead or above and spent way to much time spinning around trying to locate her every 30 seconds or so. Pain in the butt. Right next to me, we can both enjoy what were trying to look at.

Is your BC/Wing filling with water? Maybee stupid question but I find if I am neutral, ascending has never required inflation of my bc simply going vertical and one kick and I can start dumping air. If water is entering your BC/Wing at depth maybee your losing bouyancy and that requires you to...

Pay as you dive, just keep that in mind. Open your wallet and wave goodbye. The AOW card will not make you a better diver in any way shape or form. It will probably make you more comfortable under water, but its really just another cert to help you and PADI get along better. If your asking...

Yep, been hiking / climbing well over 20 years (to 5.10 trad) and let me tell you Mr. Stick, you cant dig a sh!t hole with a stick. Love little pieces of teepee floating around places or sh!t piles all over because some people think they can... (oh and by the way its not just for diggin...)...

Pilot, have you ever bought a car? Who is responsible for the actual car? The dealer or the manufacturer? Think before you assign blame. The dealer is DiveAssure the manufacturer is AIG. The dealer can and will go to bat for you, but in the end the manufacturer AIG has to agree to pay/fix...

Wow isnt it ironic........ Fantastic news glad somebody cared enough to do something about it.

Nice watch and gratz on the birthday. My wife just bought me a Cressi Edi about 3 weeks ago. It is dam nice having someone who loves you enough to share in your passion, hers is photography, but I see a blending of passions coming =).