You're right, I got the OOO message as well but missed it. Apparently the "search entire mailbox" feature in outlook doesn't include the junk folder. I never noticed that before.
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FWIW I actually had a brief interaction with Dr Botel through FB the day the signs were removed. Mine were among many other messages but she took the time to respond to me personally and at that point had actually moderated her position and had plans to hold a virtual public meeting and hoped to post the date. I think since then the response was so large this plan was further moderated and I since fell out of touch knowing there were better representatives of the BHB than I.
But I was impressed that she did respond and in a very respectful and professional manner.
But I was impressed that she did respond and in a very respectful and professional manner.
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I will go back and check my records but the signs were first noticed Feb 22 so placed the day before or that morning. The posts/news started that day, the 22nd, and I believe the signs were removed that very evening.
Yep. She found out about it Feb 22 and called FDOT that day. The signs were removed that evening. Obviously no time was spend investigating the issue before she took action.
I am impressed! Thank you for doing the research and posting this! Dr. Botel's approach seems reasonable (almost Solomon like). As opposed to the many unreasonable calls on this board by divers to ban fishing completely.
I will assume this as a real question.
It seems Dr Botel was not significantly involved in the issues with BHB prior to the postings. It is one of the reasons she had to hold interviews and meetings after the event to get up to speed. (Or at least make the appearance of considering both sides. I am not aware of her political ideologies and do not wish to bring politics into this discussion.)
Perhaps someone else is more aware of the events that lead to the postings on the bridge.
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Interesting article describing the 1925, 1949, and 1976 bridges from the mainland to Singer Island Blue Heron bridge the third to link Singer Island - News - The Palm Beach Post - West Palm Beach, FL
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As I indicated previously, I was unaware that the calls for banning fishing were pertaining only to the little bridge and not for the fishing pier itself.
I know that hundreds if not thousands of divers dive under the dedicated fishing pier when fisherman are present each year. As far as I know there is no explicit rule that excludes divers from this area.
So it is difficult for me to understand why there are apparently no problems or conflicts with the fisherman and divers at the pier (or at least none that the people on this thread are discussion) but ALL the "problems" are confined entirely to the little bridge for the Blue Heron BLVD. Is my observation/conclusion mistaken?
If I am correct, then why would all the "bad" fisherman be entirely limited to the bridge and not the pier?
If fishing is entirely incompatible with divers, then does it make sense to rope off a significant buffer area all around the fishing pier and issue divers huge fines that transgress these boundaries? Does that sort of give and take in adjusting the existing rights of divers and fishermen make sense if the two activities are "oil and water" and any sort of "overlap in utilization" presents a clear and significant threat to the public's safety?
Sure it is common sense to have a boundary, as the two activities are not compatible. That doesn't mean that every time there is one or more divers and one or more people fishing that someone will intentionally/unintentionally get hooked, there is simply a risk. With the local dive site to which I was referring, there's some interesting stuff inside that boundary. For the sake of safety, something had to give. The one thing that people may not realize is how when there is an incident, even if they were to be there that day, they wouldn't know. There was a fatality at a local dive site a few years ago where a young woman lost her life. At the end of the second dive, the instructor signaled everyone to surface, and when they collected there, the young woman was not there. Her body was found by someone who responded to the call to find her.
There was another class from another dive shop that was sharing that dive site. Now they finished up sooner. The instructor of that other class was just wrapping up packing as he learned of the missing diver. All his students and assistants were already gone. Given 5 more minutes, and he would have left as well. So there you had a class of 12 students, 3 assistants, and 1 instructor right next to where the fatality occurred that morning. Yet only the instructor learned of it. That's why I don't think the number of dives you've had there is significant. An angry person fishing who decides to hook a diver, succeeds in doing so, will be gone in under 60 seconds. Other people fishing may not even be aware of what they did. And you expect LE to be able to catch this person? And also there is risk of a person fishing unintentionally hooking a diver which I would hope would be more common than malicious intent of the unfortunate incidents of divers getting hooked.
I'm curious as to what decision the authorities will ultimately make, but I'm not optimistic there will be one that will ensure safety for the divers without denying one group or the other access. If they find one, feel free to send me a recipe for crow. May I request something that would go well with fava beans and chianti?
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