BCD wouldn't let air out

[tursiops]

If you read a few posts up you’d understand my post.

Sorry, I can't find any posts about "saving air." Can you give a post number?

Why so antagonistic?

Your post #66 is clearly upset with something that I can't find anybody said. Perhaps you are the one being antagonistic?

 

[InTheDrink]

Sorry, I can't find any posts about "saving air." Can you give a post number?

Your post #66 is clearly upset with something that I can't find anybody said. Perhaps you are the one being antagonistic?

My point - given this is a forum for learning and alternative breathing techniques in a pickle came up I am just sharing my thoughts on the subject matter.

A lot of divers try to save gas in inefficient or dangerous ways and should be discouraged to do so IMO.

Sorry if I caused offence. You might need to grow some thicker skin but let’s call it a day.

thanks, John

 

[tursiops]

My point - given this is a forum for learning and alternative breathing techniques in a pickle came up I am just sharing my thoughts on the subject matter.

A lot of divers try to save gas in inefficient or dangerous ways and should be discouraged to do so IMO.

Sorry if I caused offence. You might need to grow some thicker skin but let’s call it a day.

thanks, John

Ok, understood now. I was confused because I didn't see the thread as being about alternative breathing techniques, but rather about a malfunctioning BCD, which then drifted off toward breathing from the BCD. Which I hope most agree is a bad recommendation.

The more general subject of alternative breathing, or more generally "what to do in a pickle" are good topics...maybe you shoujd start a thread that lists good and bad things to do? Probably in a different forum...maybe Advanced.

 

[chillyinCanada]

My point - given this is a forum for learning and alternative breathing techniques in a pickle came up I am just sharing my thoughts on the subject matter.

A lot of divers try to save gas in inefficient or dangerous ways and should be discouraged to do so IMO.

Sorry if I caused offence. You might need to grow some thicker skin but let’s call it a day.

thanks, John

The misunderstanding arose because you quoted my post about squeezing my bcd down rather than breathing my bcd down pre-entry for a negative entry dive.

Your post read as if you were criticising something to which I was not speaking.

However, this has all clearly been a simple misunderstanding and everyone should stand down NOW.

 

[BlueTrin]

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[Soloist]

This always bugs me. Divers that won’t take a few breaths before diving because they think they’re using up gas.

Hate to prolong this topic (sorry @chillyinCanada), but are you referring to taking three breaths off the REGULATOR while monitoring the SPG prior to entry? This is a critical last check to insure the tank valve is open, functional and pressure is stable. If this is the case, I completely agree. However, I’m not aware of this pre-dive procedure being discussed in this particular thread. If you are referring to something else, then I couldn’t be more confused.

 

[tursiops]

are you referring to taking three breaths off the REGULATOR while monitoring the SPG prior to entry? This is a critical last check to insure the tank valve is open, functional and pressure is stable. If this is the case, I completely agree.

As do I. Excellent best-practice!

 

[wetb4igetinthewater]

Hate to prolong this topic (sorry @chillyinCanada), but are you referring to taking three breaths off the REGULATOR while monitoring the SPG prior to entry? This is a critical last check to insure the tank valve is open, functional and pressure is stable. If this is the case, I completely agree. However, I’m not aware of this pre-dive procedure being discussed in this particular thread. If you are referring to something else, then I couldn’t be more confused.

I found with full tanks, a valve has to be barely open in order for the needle to move.

I do breath off all regs in the water and of course check all valves are open (top to bottom, right to left checks)

 

[chillyinCanada]

I check my valves, right along with checking everything. I breathe off of my second stages and check my purges. I do not concern myself with the insignificant air use during these checks. I do the quick breaths check whilst watching my gauges again just before the jump/roll.

None of which has anything to do with squeezing air out of my bcd before a negative entry.

 

[The Chairman]

Yeah, sucking the air out is vastly different than breathing on your BC which is also vastly different from prebreathing your regs. I plan and check, so I'm not ever tempted to "breathe" off of my BCD. When you ascribe something to any of us that we don't/won't do, it's a bit upsetting. No one likes words being put in their mouths, so to speak.