Diver missing near Mandurah Australia

[Foxfish]

Police are investigating whether shark bite marks found on his body caused his death.

In the following media report the author/publisher now accepts that the 'human remains' that were found were those of the missing diver and the diver was attacked by a shark(s). I assume this has been verified by police.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/22571579/fond-memories-of-diver-michael/

It also states the family clearly does not accept the diver's death was the result of his own mistake. He was a very experienced diver. Other reports state the dive was in ten metres of water.

With decades of fishing and diving experience under his belt, Michael McGregor's family struggle to believe his death could have been the result of his own mistake.

 

[bowlofpetunias]

In the following media report the author/publisher now accepts that the 'human remains' that were found were those of the missing diver and the diver was attacked by a shark(s). I assume this has been verified by police.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/22571579/fond-memories-of-diver-michael/

It also states the family clearly does not accept the diver's death was the result of his own mistake. He was a very experienced diver. Other reports state the dive was in ten metres of water.

Nothing I have seen or heard says he was Attacked by sharks. I have heard/read there were bite marks. No indication if it was pre or post mortum. IMHO a scavenger feeding or tasting deceased subjects does not qualify as an attack!

In my experience it is a RARE family indeed who will be able to accept or admit that their recently deceased loved one could have committed a mistake that cost them their life!

The news I have heard here leaves me unsure if this was a scuba diver or a free diver. Certainly he was taking rock lobster. I know in NSW it is illegal to take anything but a limited number of Abalone on SCUBA. If this was NSW I would assume it was a free dive. What are the rules in Western Australia regarding "taking" on SCUBA?

 

[Omisson]

In the following media report the author/publisher now accepts that the 'human remains' that were found were those of the missing diver and the diver was attacked by a shark(s). I assume this has been verified by police.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/22571579/fond-memories-of-diver-michael/

It also states the family clearly does not accept the diver's death was the result of his own mistake. He was a very experienced diver. Other reports state the dive was in ten metres of water.

Do you actually see something that's not there? Nowhere does it say he was definitively attacked by a shark. In fact it says cause of death HAS NOT and probably COULD NOT be determined.

Man, you are a one track agenda.....with blinders.

 

[clownfishsydney]

Sheila, the dive industry in WA almost solely exists because you can take crayfish on scuba. Also, you can no longer take abalone on scuba in NSW.

 

[bowlofpetunias]

Thanks Michael. I had heard of it being suspended temporarily but hadn't heard of it being reopened or if it was decided on a permanent closure. I have no interest in "taking" so didn't follow it up. I should however be more aware before I post:blush: thanks for the clarification. :worship: I had no idea about WA so he may have been on SCUBA but I haven't seen anything stating that for sure. Does anyone know for sure?

 

[PeterNBiddle]

Authorities in WA refuse to rule out shark attack on human remains found near a train station in Western Australia: "The remains are believed to be that of a man, but police say they do not yet know if the death is suspicious."

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/22608526/human-remains-found-near-wa-train-station/

 

[chillyinCanada]

Hmm . . .your link is to a woman's body found in the bush.

 

[PeterNBiddle]

Hmm . . .your link is to a woman's body found in the bush.

But it might have been sharks, right?

 

[Foxfish]

Early media reports indicated search and rescue divers were on the scene soon after the alarm was sounded about the missing diver.

Two water police vessels, three volunteer marine rescue boats, two helicopters and a dive team have been deployed to help with the search.

The alarm was raised at 1.30 pm.

Emergency authorities were told a diver had failed to resurface about 5km off the Dawesville Cut at about 1.30pm today.

The media report release was 3.31 pm.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/22245886/diver-missing-off-dawesville/

The deceased diver was on a boat which remained in the area for the remainder of the afternoon.

Friends on the boat stayed anchored in the area until Saturday evening.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/latest/a/22269013/family-gathers-amid-diver-search/

I'd expect that if a pleasure craft could remain anchored in the area for that afternoon the search and rescue divers would have several hours of searching the area where the boat was initially moored.

Media reports stated that the search and rescue divers were deployed on the following day.

This morning, the search resumed with a police helicopter, a dive team on police boat Cygnet V, a vessel from Peel Water Police and four volunteer rescue craft from Mandurah Water Rescue Group, Rockingham Volunteer Sea Rescue Group and Fremantle Sea Rescue.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/22256264/search-for-diver-continues-into-night/

I expect the media would have reported if the efforts of the search and rescue dive team were seriously affected by the weather conditions prior to the time of the release of these reports. That did not occur.

The original dive location described in media reports where the diver went missing was about 5 km northwest of the Dawesville Cut in 10 m of water. Divers said they stayed within ten metres of the boat.

The diving group - the missing man, a relative and three friends - had been anchored about 5.5km north-west of the Dawesville Cut and were diving to a depth of 10m.

Sen. Const. Jennings said the divers were within 10m of the anchored boat. "I don't think the conditions at the time they were diving were that bad," he said.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/latest/a/22269013/family-gathers-amid-diver-search/

Reports also indicate that the missing man's remains were found near the original dive site.

A WA Police spokeswoman said following an extensive air, land and sea search, water police found human remains believed to be of the missing man close to the dive site.

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The original dive location was near the southern junction of the Five Fathom Bank and Murray Reefs. I've not been that far south but have dived the regions to the north along these reef systems a lot over the years. For me the mystery is how the deceased diver could have evaded the careful search of an area close to the original dive location of a team of divers over a period of even one to two days.

Unless the actual extent of injuries is much greater than is presently being indicated in the media, I'd expect the autopsy would determine if the deceased died from drowning or shark attack, the type of shark responsible for the attack and the approximate time of when the attack occurred.

In any case it now seems police accept the deceased suffered a shark attack. I expect this was self evident from the start.

Police said the diver's remains indicated he had been attacked by a shark but they were not yet able to tell whether he had been bitten before or after he died.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/22340802/shark-shock-over-divers-death/

In the past Fisheries WA scientists have been able to confirm this within a few days of a fatal attack and identify the type of shark responsible for the attack without the need for an inquest.

 

[Omisson]

Early media reports indicated search and rescue divers were on the scene soon after the alarm was sounded about the missing diver.



The alarm was raised at 1.30 pm.



The media report release was 3.31 pm.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/22245886/diver-missing-off-dawesville/

The deceased diver was on a boat which remained in the area for the remainder of the afternoon.



https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/latest/a/22269013/family-gathers-amid-diver-search/

I'd expect that if a pleasure craft could remain anchored in the area for that afternoon the search and rescue divers would have several hours of searching the area where the boat was initially moored.

Media reports stated that the search and rescue divers were deployed on the following day.



https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/22256264/search-for-diver-continues-into-night/

I expect the media would have reported if the efforts of the search and rescue dive team were seriously affected by the weather conditions prior to the time of the release of these reports. That did not occur.

The original dive location described in media reports where the diver went missing was about 5 km northwest of the Dawesville Cut in 10 m of water. Divers said they stayed within ten metres of the boat.



https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/latest/a/22269013/family-gathers-amid-diver-search/

Reports also indicate that the missing man's remains were found near the original dive site.



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The original dive location was near the southern junction of the Five Fathom Bank and Murray Reefs. I've not been that far south but have dived the regions to the north along these reef systems a lot over the years. For me the mystery is how the deceased diver could have evaded the careful search of an area close to the original dive location of a team of divers over a period of even one to two days.

Unless the actual extent of injuries is much greater than is presently being indicated in the media, I'd expect the autopsy would determine if the deceased died from drowning or shark attack, the type of shark responsible for the attack and the approximate time of when the attack occurred.

In any case it now seems police accept the deceased suffered a shark attack. I expect this was self evident from the start.



https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/22340802/shark-shock-over-divers-death/

In the past Fisheries WA scientists have been able to confirm this within a few days of a fatal attack and identify the type of shark responsible for the attack without the need for an inquest.

Reality just doesn't matter to you, huh?

The coroner REFUSED to deckare it a shark attack because they could not rule out the bites were post mortem.

Normally they can make this determination. Here they cannot.

Stop making up things.


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