Please help ID these fish

[doctormike]

Hi!

I'm updating my fish database, and I have a few species that I would like to add, but I'm stuck on the precise ID. I have an east coast group and a west coast group, please let me know your ideas about any of these, and feel free to forward the links to anyone else you know who might be able to help...

http://www.rothschilddesign.com/eastcoast_ID


http://www.rothschilddesign.com/westcoast_ID


Thanks!

Mike

 

[Kukuisa]

Eastcoast:
number one: could be a Bar Jack.
number six has dots similar to a coney. Also the two caudal dots are present.

 

[doctormike]

Eastcoast:
number one: could be a Bar Jack.

Yup, possibly... maybe just a color variant?

number six has dots similar to a coney. Also the two caudal dots are present.

Yup, good point about the caudal dots. I had also thought some sort of graysby. But the black face is still unusual for any of those...

Thanks!!

 

[Kukuisa]

Yup, possibly... maybe just a color variant?

The Reefnet DVD ''Fishes of the Caribbean" has pictures of a Bar Jack with a similar copper/gold color.

 

[deborahdelamar]

These are positive, positive for Caribbean species:
1. Bar jack in dark phase. Black bar on back extends to lower lobe of tail.
2. Yes, initial phase Redband Parrotfish. White "Band Aid" at base of tail. Color and pattern vary in this species. White mark is always obvious in juvenile & initial phase Redbands.
3. Yes, terminal phase Redband Parrotfish. Red/pink line extending from corner of mouth.
5. Yes, Schoolmaster Snapper. "Schoolbus" yellow fins -- the bars are not significant to the ID and are not uniformly present in this species.
6. Coney Grouper. Two spots at base of tail. Coneys have several color phases and can lighten & darken, so one can't use color as a guide for this species.

 

[doctormike]

These are positive, positive for Caribbean species:
1. Bar jack in dark phase. Black bar on back extends to lower lobe of tail.
2. Yes, initial phase Redband Parrotfish. White "Band Aid" at base of tail. Color and pattern vary in this species. White mark is always obvious in juvenile & initial phase Redbands.
3. Yes, terminal phase Redband Parrotfish. Red/pink line extending from corner of mouth.
5. Yes, Schoolmaster Snapper. "Schoolbus" yellow fins -- the stripes are not significant to the ID and are not uniformly present in this species.
6. Coney Grouper. Two spots at base of tail. Coneys have several color phases and can lighten & darken, so one can't use color as a guide for this species.

Fantastic! I knew that you would know...

Thanks...

Mike

 

[lpurcell]

West Coast group

1. Not a croaker. Likely California Sheephead, female, wrasse family: white chin, body shape, bluish dorsal fin spines are pretty unique
2. Yes, this is Kelp bass: unique checkerboard body spots, red spot near tail could be injury?
3. Likely Coralline sculpin: purplish-red mottling on head and back (or maybe smoothhead sculpin-disinguishing between them requires counting scales)
4. Also likely a scuplin - species unknown, they are very hard to id without closer exam - good luck.

 

[doctormike]

West Coast group

1. Not a croaker. Likely California Sheephead, female, wrasse family: white chin, body shape, bluish dorsal fin spines are pretty unique
2. Yes, this is Kelp bass: unique checkerboard body spots, red spot near tail could be injury?
3. Likely Coralline sculpin: purplish-red mottling on head and back (or maybe smoothhead sculpin-disinguishing between them requires counting scales)
4. Also likely a scuplin - species unknown, they are very hard to id without closer exam - good luck.

Terrific..! Thanks so much...

Mike