Spectre
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Charlie99:
Being the one that actually had the hood on while flipping the switch, I can _Guarantee_ that while Pete provided evidence of some things, he played absolutely zero role in the decision to ban popeye. He was not banned for arguing with Pete. He was banned for being here with the sole intent of disrupting the community. Instead of peacefully asking for reconsideration, he continued to disrupt with sockpuppets; thus making it very clear what his intent was.
Genesis is not banned. He was warned. I personally stand behind Pete with that warning 100%. It's one thing to dive without training; that's your personal decision. It's another thing to admit to diving without training... still fairly personal, but leaving plenty of room to discourage the practice. It's a _whole_ other issue to not only discuss diving without training, but to actually encourage it in public is downright deadly.
You can all say you shouldn't learn to dive on the internet, but who here can actually state they haven't learned anything about diving here? What about those that don't know who people are, and don't know who to believe and who not to believe? And if you go with Karl's concepts of forgoing instruction, where do you expect these people to go learn?
A while back, in a different thread, I made the analogy that if you ask me if you should wear a helmet when you ski, I will tell you without hesitation "yes". If you ask me if -I- wear a helmet when I ski, I will refuse to answer unless I trust that I can disclaim my answer properly.
Encouraging things that are blatently unsafe is downright immoral, and I applaud NetDoc for stepping up and putting his foot down on this issue; knowing full well that you wolves will be after his carcass as soon as the foot hits the ground.
And for all you others that constantly whine about threads being pulled, and not locked, or cleaned up, or otherwise. Give it a rest. The moderators are volunteers, and only have so much time to deal with this stuff. When a war brews, they have to keep up on the moderator discussion of the thread, send the PMs, keep the offshoot threads under control, deal with the responses to the PMs. Now with all this going on, there are the folks here [some who should definately know better] that wish them to go through with an objective comb and clean up the thread so that others can continue to fly off the handle later... all ni a matter of a couple minutes since the offshoot threads of "where'd my thread go" will start up after about that much time. There has been _far_ too many times where a thread starts demanding their PM for a thread being pulled, when the thread had been pulled for literally 30 seconds.
Sure, armchair quarterbacking makes the mod process simple. But until you've tried to do what's best for the site while dealing with everyone exploding around you, you really have no idea.
So I humbly request you people SHUT THE HELL UP and go talk about diving. If you want to ***** about the big jackbooted ogres on scubaboard that get their thrills squashing the little people with their massive amounts of power... PM Genesis; I think he has his own forum setup for that sort of thing.
[Damn I miss being able to lock threads]
