Mverick:
No organization means no C-card. Which means no boat dives with others.
That’s what you think. There’s never been need for a certificate beyond the detailed training record book that each receives, except when working at European Universities where the workplace safety stuff has required me to write an additional letter and them to get a CMAS Scientific Diver Brevet.
Mverick:
Several dozen times from 20 feet? You can't swim up from 20 feet?
That’s not what I said, I stated that: “Clearly you've never tried it. I can drop a 35 lb weight belt in 60 feet of water, flare out and exhale to the surface at a rate of slightly more than 70FPM.” You asked “Have you ever had to do this?” And forgiving your incredible rudeness considering that I just stated that I had in point of fact done that and told you what the resultant ascent rate was, I added that I do it (remember what
it is?) “Several dozen times every class (I should have said course rather than class so as to be completely clear) from 20 feet.” This is, in point of fact, the case. It’s part of the training and I use a full gear, doff and don, with a buoyant ascent in the middle as part of my normal kata.
Mverick:
And, do you think a new diver who has overweighted themselves and need to drop that belt are going to be able to do this?”
And I answered: “Don't know about an overweighted student, never had one.” And I can say the same about a new diver: “Don't know about an overweighted new diver, never had one.” I added that “… every student has done this several dozen times every class from 20 feet and at least once in o/w from 30.” This is part of their training.
My students and divers do not need to have their weight checked by my or by a DM before entering the water. Perhaps yours do, but please don’t project the awkwardness and incompetence that you’re used to onto programs that you know nothing about.
Mverick:
“Now, get that student on his next dive in warm water when he learned in cold water and what is his weight going to be?
Probably not right.” Once again, please don’t project the awkwardness and incompetence that you’re used to onto programs that you know nothing about.
Mverick:
Part of your instruction is teachin them to dump there weight belt several dozen times during a class. I don't think so.
Frankly, it appears that you do no think, “so” nor “not so.”
Mverick:
Several is more the 2 so even at 3 they dump there weight belt a minimum of 36 times in your class. .
Between the free diving doff and don and the scuba doff and don 36 is likely a low estimate. We have 14 pool session and typically 12 available practice sessions that most student attend so thats 26 pool “adventures” and I’m sure they do at least two doff and dons per session … that’s 48 right there without even getting to open water.
Mverick:
Your answers aren't adding up.
They add up, you just have no idea of what your talking about.