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For those who have asked about historical artifacts and what to do when you find them underwater: an artifact by definition is something made by humans which has not been touched by a human in X years (30 maybe). Therefore if you pick it up to bring it to the surface then you just negated the "historical artifact" status.
 
Wonder if it was the same one I was shown in Chuuk??? Was stashed behind a joint in the hull at the time I went though. Going through a room in the Nippo Maru there we found other remains digging through the silt. We put them back and left the room. Same in Busuanga (Phillipines) in a Maru.
 
lord1234:
PADiver as a jew I understand your position. But most soldiers (especially air officers) had little to do with the holocaust. He should be treated as any enemy combatant and by the Geneva convention should be allowed a normal burial. I would politely request that you try to find his coordinates and report it to whoever you can. You can help someone find happiness.

HERE HERE!!!!
 
D_B:
I think thats a bit harsh , don't you ?
... I can certantly understand the reason for not doing so, especially if you or your family was affected WWII

DB

And what the stooge said in the first place is not...
 
...some pretty bizzare things in my career as a commercial oilfield diver, but this dive was considerably...freaky!:

There I was... in the Chukchi Sea, a desolate swath of ocean located off the N.W. Coast of Alaska. I was part of a diving crew providing underwater support for exploratory oilfield drilling operations aboard a Canadian drillship, leased by Gulf Petroleum for the 1989 drilling season ( May to October ).

Environmental regulations required the operator to impact the ocean environment as little as possible & this included a stipulation that no exploration apparatus could rise above the level of natural bottom. To satisfy this restriction, the driller would use a giant coring tool to dig a 10' dia., 40' deep hole in the bottom sediment, known as the "Glory Hole." From the bottom of this hole they would begin the exploratory well.

When "making hole" in the seafloor the driller begins with a 36" dia. hole to a predetermined depth, he then lines this hole with a steel liner or "casing" to give support to the hole in the surrounding sediment. Once the liner is run it is cemented in place. The "wellhead" is affixed to the top joint of 36"casing & is essentially an adapter, designed to accept the b.o.p. ( blowout preventer ) & later on, a production assembly if the hole is viable. Depending on the nature & depth of the sediment, a further series of ever-smaller diameter casings are run & cemented in down to bedrock.

Upon reaching bedrock the final hole bore begins ( about 7" dia. ) to t.d. ( terminal depth ). The drillstring is advanced downhole in 40' sections. Drilling mud is pumped from topside down through the drillpipe where it exits out holes in the heads of the drillbit. This mud is vital to the process as it performs a variety of functions including: cooling the drillbit, returning cuttings to the surface & providing hydrostatic pressure to counter ever increasing formation pressures downhole.

This concludes "Subsea Drilling 101...onto "Primer for Deepsea Diving..."

Built into the drillship in an enclosed area located midships on the main deck was our 1000' saturation diving system. System tankage included a living chamber to accomodate 4 divers, a transfer chamber containing a toilet & shower-head, and a submersible decompression chamber or "diving bell" that acted as our subsea elevator to the worksite. The bell was the only part of the system to enter the water. A "control van" contained all the electrics, electronics & pneumatic controls to operate the system. Additional system components included gas scrubbing, chamber environmental control, gas storage & bell handling winch system. The bell was supplied with power, breathing gases, hot water & communications via umbilical. The divers wore hot water suits for thermal protection & umbilical supplied hardhats for breathing & communications.

When the driller completes his "casing program" it is time to install the b.o.p.. To fascilitate this tricky operation a "guide base" is lowered over the wellhead & leveled at the bottom of the glory hole. From each corner of the square guide base rise the "guideposts". A diver will descend to drive a "spear" into the top of each post. From each spear runs a guide wire to surface which terminate to heave compensators on the drill floor. These compensators allow drilling to proceed in rough seas (up to a point).

The blowout preventer is essentially a series of hydraulically actuated rams. It stands about 40' tall & weighs about 25 tons. It is lowered to the wellhead by thick joints of 40' long pipe called "marine riser". Affixed to each corner of the b.o.p. are four posts. The bottom of these posts are flared in the shape of a funnel & act as centering guides for the tops of the guide base posts. When all is ready, the b.o.p. is lowered to the wellhead, 40' at a time, & is hydraulically latched.

When drilling to t.d. begins, the drillstring is advanced through the b.o.p., past the wellhead, down through the casing to bedrock. The primary function of the b.o.p. is to prevent down hole pressures from venting to surface ( "blowout" ) should this pressure overcome the hydrostatic pressure of the mud column in the hole. The driller can seal off the hole by activating "pipe rams" that will seal around the drillstring. If these fail to contain the pressure a "shear ram" can transect the string & block the hole.

Are ya with me?

Before drilling could commence the b.o.p. or "stack" had to be inspected & it was my good fortune that day to get the dive. Myself & another diver ( the "bellman" ) climbed into the bell, did our checks & prepared for launch. When all was ready, the bell would be "unmated" from the transfer chamber. A cover over the bell "moonpool" would be drawn back & the bell, at atmospheric pressure, would be lowered into the waiting sea. Natural bottom @ this location was 140', but my dive would take me to the bottom of the glory hole so our dive was planned for excursion to 180'. The bell's decent was halted 10' above natural bottom. Inside the bell we prepared for "blowdown." Fully dressed in my hot water suit, with hot water connected & bypassing, I sat perched on the edge of the "trunking" ( a 30" dia. access hole to the sea ) with helmet in hand & ready to go. We were conducting a "bounce dive" this day. I had to get out, get the job done, get back in the bell & begin ascending before our "bounce" bottom time expired. If We went overtime, we'd be committed to "saturation" & our decompression time would extend from 13 hrs. to 3 days.

3...2...1..Blowdown! The bellman would actuate a spring-loaded valve & compressed air would roar into the bell. On gauges inside the bell & in the control van our decent to depth would be monitored. Upon reaching depth, internal bell pressure equalized with external ambient water pressure & the hatch to the sea would swing silently open. I would don my helmet, switch my hot water to dive mode & slip through the trunking space into the cold, black ocean. Powerfull external bell lighting would illuminate the blackness enough to guide me to the lip of the glory hole.

So there I was, trying to see past the swirling clouds of mud that continuously cloud the glory hole as I squeezed between the wall of the hole & the side of the b.o.p.. My job was to inspect the stack for damage, leaks & anything out of the ordinary. Working blind, I would feel my way around & down the device, occassionally updating topside as to my progress. The last job on my list was to check the "indicator pin", a small steel rod that would retract into a hole in the base of the b.o.p. where it connects with the wellhead when ( & if ) the base of the stack latches properly to the wellhead. If you slide your hand along the surface of the base, you can just feel the head of the pin protruding if the latch was good; if it wasn't, the pin would be extended from the hole about 4". To get at the area of the pin required one to lay on their side on the bottom of the glory hole & reach into the base area of the stack...

Fully stretched out on my side, I'm reaching way in to locate the pin when I feel something moving under me, no, SQUIRMING under me! Wait a minute! There are lots of things moving under me! Its so tight between the wall of the hole & the stack that my movement was limited but now my need to move was urgent so that I might escape the clutches of whatever ungodly prehistoric mutant organisms the cursed coring tool had unearthed!!

"Topside! there is something moving under me!" I reported in a hoarse rasp. " Probably just your bowels Dan, Carry on with the inspection" the Supervisor answered. "I said under me, not in me fer chrissakes!"

Collecting all my courage, I forced my arm beneath me & felt for the abominations, fully expecting my arm to be ripped from its' socket any moment. Getting ahold of something, I raised it up in front of my helmet-mounted dive light to see...a crab! Good heavens, I've got crabs everywhere! The bottom of the hole was crawling with the critters!

Turns out the mindless drones were on a seasonal migratory march & some of them managed to stumble upon the glory hole & fall in! What to do? OPERATION "CRAB RESCUE" of course!

When the rescue was complete we had several bags of crabs on deck with no where to go. Not having the heart to toss them back into the merciless sea, forever seperated from their fellow crabs, we tossed em' into the pot instead!

Best damn crabs ya ever tasted.

D.S.D.
 
PAdiver93:
Forgive - may be... FORGET?!!! - NEVER!

What else should we forget??? It's part of me, just like Sept. 11th - it's a scar that cannot be forgotten - hurts too much - and time does not dull the pain...

Then also remember American foriegn policies that aided with cash/military support/ support in general on the world scene... Pol Pot in Cambodia, Eddie Amin in Africa, Pinoche(sp?) in Chile, Shaw of Iran, Saddam Husain....to name a few... they caused people around the world to have scars and pain too.

So looking at the big picture now...

Saying that a combatant in a war does not deserve a grave or the people from that country command no respect because of their gov'ts policies... is not that what the crazies who caused sept 11 are saying and their mentality?
 
scubatwinned:
And what the stooge said in the first place is not...
... is not that what the crazies who caused sept 11 are saying and their mentality?
You calling him a "stooge" ?? and equating his attitude with "the crazies" ???


Wow ... boy do you need to lighten up

I am sorry for the hijack, but I could not leave this alone
DB
 
D_B:
You calling him a "stooge" ?? and equating his attitude with "the crazies" ???


Wow ... boy do you need to lighten up

I am sorry for the hijack, but I could not leave this alone
DB

Ya, your right, sorry... I lowered myself to his level by name calling.

But by giving an individual no respect because of his/her countries gov't is exactly the attitude of terrorists, and his statement.
 
PAdiver93:
Creep..y... Found a German Me-109 (I think) with the pilot's remains in the Baltic sea once... The plain was intact (except for a few bullet holes - corrosion wasn't that bad (especially since that Nazi had been under water for at least 55 years at that time)... Glass was still in, swastika was visible after clearing off the silt. Didn't report it and never will - he doesn't deserve a grave!

thats really harsh, do you honestly think that they had a choice?
mate you have some serious issues to deal with.
 

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