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10 meters is 5 diver lengths. Or a nice sized living room. If that takes you more than a minute at a regular pace there are problems here.
Yes, there are problems here. One of the biggest is they won't necessarily be stationary.
 
view as accusatory, judgmental and presumptive.
But that’s a key attribute — theyre not meant to be, they are meant to be illuminating and clarifying another perspective that you can’t have (being a 1st account observer, you can’t perceive yourself from the outside) that can help you identify things that didn’t work out on your side
We don’t have the other side of the (3) story(ies), so we can only make sense of what you say and honestly you’re being a bit dismissive/defensive of it
Early on right after my AOW I got “copped” for being all over the place, and I think I deserved it; as long as it’s not rude/flat out offensive
Talking about it topside I realized what I can improve upon and it made my dives easier after that (and improved my situational awareness)

Eg. A “judgment” that being 10m away from your buddy isn’t a judgment of you, but of that fact — that it’s too far to react without unnecessary stress/risk

Nobody here is against you — we’re just stating what we think you might have not (self)observed
 
Yes, there are problems here. One of the biggest is they won't necessarily be stationary.

Agreed. Divers typically move around, not staying in one place for more than brief periods. The 30 meter range takes constant movement into account.
 
The 30 meter range takes constant movement into account.

I routinely do 50m swims in apnea. In pools as the peaking exercise in a training session.

No way that I could do 30m with no preparation, at depth, with full scuba gear and with empty lungs.

And if I succeeded I'd probably suck out empty a tank in a very short time.
 
Yes, there are problems here. One of the biggest is they won't necessarily be stationary.
I think I should elaborate: if you're 10m apart, swimming 10m/min and they're swimming 8m/min away from you -- as is the case if they're leading -- how long until you can grab their fin? For most, I think the answer is, "too long".
 
I haven't read all the posts but years ago we splashed with a dive guide who gave a reasonable briefing. Unfortunately once we splashed one diver on rental gear had a wee bit of a gear malfunction. I helped them to surface then hand him off to the dive guide and rejoined my spouse and the group at the bottom. After perhaps five minutes we decided to do the dive so five of us went slowly down along the reef figuring they would catch up. They never did. We had an enjoyable dive.

Once back on the surface we headed into shore for lunch, the dive guide bolted off the boat before anyone. Once back on board for the second dive, the dive guide said to everyone "I am the dive guide and no one is to do the dive without me." We all looked at each other with "What the" expressions which followed by some minor discussion amongst ourselves.

The point is that some dive guides and in this case some operations are quite rigid. Other people diving with them felt the same, they were quite rigid. After the 4th day I spoke to the owner's son who was running the operation about our observations and expectations. It did not really resonate.

Last two days did not go quite as well. So much so that on the last day my usually tolerant spouse ripped a strip out of the guides right in front everyone. We paid our bill with no tip.

At the end of the day it is all about communication, the guides and the guests.

For inquiring divers, that was with in 2007 with Seahorse Dive Shop in Placencia Belize and Brian Jr. YMMV.
 
my buddy is my 'safety belt'

I’ve seen this mindset pop up a lot—divers planning their dives with the assumption that their buddy will save them if something goes wrong. Personally, I think that’s a dangerous way to approach diving.

Yes, we dive with buddies. However, I believe every diver should plan and prepare as if they were diving alone. That doesn’t mean ignoring your buddy—it means not depending on them to bail you out in an emergency.

Here’s how I approach it:

  1. Avoid trouble before it starts – I plan my dives carefully to minimize risk and avoid situations where I’d need help.
  2. Redundancy is key – I carry backups appropriate for the dive (gas, lights, cutting tools, etc.).
  3. Self-sufficiency – I ensure I have the necessary skills and equipment to handle problems independently.
Relying on a buddy to be right next to you when things go south is unrealistic. Emergencies are unpredictable. Your buddy might be distracted, dealing with their own issue, or simply too far away to help in time.

This isn’t about diving solo—it’s about diving responsibly. I still dive with buddies, communicate, and stay aware of each other. But I never assume they’ll save me. That mindset invites complacency.
 
After reading through this entire discussion thread, thus far, it seems like you are not really looking for opinions from others regarding what you expressed in your original post. Instead, it seems you are seeking validation/vindication for your opinion/mindset regarding your experiences. You seem awfully argumentative and defensive with any notion that your diving practice and mindset maybe what triggered what you experienced.

That's not what I get from reading all his posts here and the other people's posts as well. He is engaging in a discussion and providing counterarguments to some nonsensical points made by others. Are you expecting him to roll over and accept whatever others are telling him, without any thoughts or expressions of his own? I appreciate and respect his standing his ground, giving thoughtful opinions, and even taking criticism, even when it borders on personal insults.
 

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