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Just a phrase. Whatever it takes to swim as much as 10 meters. Even a catastrophic equipment failure would leave sufficient gas to cover the distance.
I plan cave dives based on swimming 10m/min and that's a fairly brisk pace. 10m is a long swim. That last sentence is pure hubris.
 
Are your swims done with empty lungs (like you may get in a OOA situation that you notice only because you can't inhale after having exhaled)? At which depth do you do them?
When I was freediving more seriously I used to practice empty lung walks. It is not pleasant at the end, especially when you are gooned with CO2 and you simultaneously want to breathe out and breathe in at the same time and you can't figure out how to do either.
The more I read you, the more I think your guides were reacting to your general attitude as much as to any specific event.
I only read a couple of pages and that was my feeling. Enough that I didn't want to read any more.
 
This stuff isn’t hard.

Just be a good diver.
 
I plan cave dives based on swimming 10m/min and that's a fairly brisk pace. 10m is a long swim. That last sentence is pure hubris.

10 meters is 5 diver lengths. Or a nice sized living room. If that takes you more than a minute at a regular pace there are problems here.
 
10 meters is 5-6 diver lengths and I don't feel that is too far in calm, clear waters.
As a Divemaster, I do.

After reading through this entire discussion thread, thus far, it seems like you are not really looking for opinions from others regarding what you expressed in your original post. Instead, it seems you are seeking validation/vindication for your opinion/mindset regarding your experiences. You seem awfully argumentative and defensive with any notion that your diving practice and mindset maybe what triggered what you experienced.

I suggest, stop looking at this from a binary standpoint of who was right/wrong, and try to sift through and find those kernels of knowledge that you can incorporate into your paradigm to become a better diver. Finding the pieces that confirm one's bias is easy...opening up to the idea that we can learn and grow as divers, and as people is the challenging part of life.

Good luck.

-Z
 
In 20+ years of traveling to dive I've really only had one bad experience with a guide and it wasn't that bad he was just to fast for me. I just let him go as he was either going to come back and find me or I'm meeting him on the boat as I dive enough on my own I'm not worried about finding the boat. The owner of the shop asked me how the dive was and I explained my frustration, we had a nice conversation and he said he apricated the feedback and will talk to the guide and please give them another try. Six months later I dove with the same guide again and we had a great dive. I've dove in Egypt and found all the guides and boat crew to be fun above and below the water and during the briefings the also explained if you want to do your own dive you don't have to follow them but let them know what your plan is. I've also been an active DM for the last 19 years working with classes and guiding dives. Guides underwater usually pay attention to the divers that need the most supervision it's pretty easy to size up skill level once your head goes underwater. I see too many people not pay attention or talk during the briefings because they think they know everything. I heard a saying once that I think is pretty true, if you call someone an A-hole once during the day they probably are, you call two people A-holes during the day maybe, the third time you call someone an A-hole in a day who's the A-hole!
 
A minute is more or less how long you’d need to empty a whole tank with a LP failure, each second counts
 
10 meters is 5 diver lengths. Or a nice sized living room. If that takes you more than a minute at a regular pace there are problems here.
Yep like current, swell, kelp, visibility drops etc. The ocean is not a forgiving place.
 
if you call someone an A-hole once during the day they probably are, you call two people A-holes during the day maybe, the third time you call someone an A-hole in a day who's the A-hole!

This wasn't all in one day.
 
Yep like current, swell, kelp, visibility drops etc. The ocean is not a forgiving place.

I've never seen visibility go from clear to zero in a minute or two over 100s of dives.if this was a thing I can just imagine the chaos that would ensue in typical recreational dives with divers all over the place suddenly lost and disoriented in zero visibility. I would anticipate high casualty rates.
 

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