A total noob question that I should know the answer too but...

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I agree with the short answer of "Yes" but there are variables- length of time at depth, number of dives earlier that day to what depth, etc. A safety stop is not a bad thing unless there is an emergency that overrides it. Best thing- do not get separated from a buddy. There should never be an issue with that if you plan your dive together, establish rules of proximity and who will lead. I have a blog post on this here on SB. "Keep your friends close and your buddies closer."
DivemasterDennis
 
For me, it would depend on conditions and history. If you're in current, where you are likely to get increasingly separated on ascent (perhaps to the point of not being able to see one another on the surface) then I'd skip the stop on a dive like you're describing. If we're in quiet water and the viz is good, where I might be able to reacquire the group if I ascend a bit, I might opt to do the stop. But it is important to discuss it beforehand, because if the group has surfaced and they do NOT expect you to stop, by the end of an extra three minutes of having you missing, somebody might be pretty perturbed.
 
I would skip the stop. My buddy is my husband. If we're separated I'm worried about him and he's worried about me. I want to find him as soon as possible and make sure he's safe. I also want him to find me so that he knows I'm safe. Staying underwater for three minutes doing an optional safety stop only adds to both our levels of stress.
This would be entirely different if it was a required decompression stop but it's not. On a no-stop dive, our lost buddy protocol is to look for a minute and surface. If I don't find my buddy on the surface, I start worrying that something has happened.
 
You should have this worked out beforehand but I would generally follow:

If you and your buddy are separated from the group, do the stop. You are trying to avoid getting lost, not mitigate an emergency. An smb can be deployed to tell the boat you are there.

If you are separated from your buddy, skip it (but do pause at 15 feet to compose yourself for the remaining ascent). Skipping a stop poses almost zero immediate risk. If your buddy is in real trouble, 3 minutes is way to long to add to the search time. Again, this must be agreed to ahead of time.

Anybody is of the philosophy that they should not take the tiny risk of skipping the stop in order to help a potentially drowning buddy should be courtious enough to warn potential instabuddies of this. I personally don't want to dive with a buddy who thinks "I am not going to help you unless there is zero risk to me"
 
Wow - I sometimes see comments in these forums claiming that the variety of responses are dangerous but am too much of a noob to notice. Then this thread comes along and blows my mind. Your dive buddy has been missing for over one minute and you don't have a deco obligation - is there any question as to whether you delay short of the surface to take a non-obligatory "safety stop" before surfacing to either locate your buddy or seek help/sound recall? I certainly hope I am not the one sucking all of my gas in a blind panic because I am entangled by the net neither of us saw while you hang out and look at your computer! I am glad the OP asked the question because it would never have dawned on me that anyone would even consider pulling a non-obligatory stop in a missing diver situation and now I know (should have already known, but I almost always dive with my wife and she knows) to expressly discuss this with any buddy. It also gets me thinking - while I fully support taking a safety stop in any non-emergency situation and always plan to take one, is it the case that many divers have just stopped thinking for themselves ("safety stops are a good idea but not required") and just recite and follow some doctrine ("always take a safety stop")?
 
I would agree with those who say it's better to skip the stop, especially if your buddy is inexperienced. He may be in a panic. If you are close to the end of the dive at 18m and are approaching your NDL doing the stop may be in order, especially if your buddy is experienced.
 
I would agree with those who say it's better to skip the stop, especially if your buddy is inexperienced. He may be in a panic. If you are close to the end of the dive at 18m and are approaching your NDL doing the stop may be in order, especially if your buddy is experienced.

I respectfully disagree. The more experienced your buddy is, the less likely it should be that he or she becomes separated from you without being in real trouble. Also, if you are at the end of a dive, your buddy will have less air, and less ndl time left, giving him/her less time to be rescued if there is a problem.
 
Here is another vote for "it depends" and "you and your buddy should have discussed this."

Here are some factors to consider.

Under normal conditions, at 18 minutes/60 feet, a safety stop is considered completely optional until you have been under water for 49 minutes. Even if you have very good control of your breathing, if you are using an AL 80, you and your buddy will have been back on the boat rehydrating by then. We must therefore assume that your lost buddy incident happened much earlier than that. How much earlier? Well, if it happened two minutes after descending, I hope we can all agree that a safety stop would be silly. The closer you get to the 49 minute mark, the less silly it becomes. That's one aspect of the "it depends" part.

Next, as TSandM points out, if you are diving in current, the current is usually different at different depths. The more time you are at a different depth from your buddy, the farther apart you are going to be when you finally surface. In a quiet lake, that won't matter. (Another "it depends" aspect.)

Overall, on an 18 meter/60 feet dive, my strong inclination would be to head directly to the surface.

Although it is therefore important to make sure you both know the plan, more important is the willingness to stick to the plan. I have been in only a handful of situations where I have had to surface for this reason. On every case, I was with divers who knew the protocol well, and on every case, the missing buddy ignored it. In each case, fortunately, although we were in very poor visibility, we were also in very benign conditions, so it was more of an annoyance than a serious concern. In most of the cases I was eventually able to spot bubbles and swim down through them (to very shallow depths) until I found the diver. Normally what I just described is not a good idea unless you are sure it is the person you are looking for, otherwise you get the endless case of divers popping to the surface one at a time, looking around, and then descending to look again.

In one really weird case, I was with a group of 5 who were following a diver who was navigating by compass. At one point he made a sudden turn and we lost him. The 4 of us stayed close together carefully, and he later said he could hear us breathing but could not tell where it was coming from. After a minute, we thumbed the dive, which was only about 30 feet deep. We waited on the surface for him. We looked for bubbles, but it was a windy day, so the surface was rough. One of us spotted something strange--an inflated surface marker buoy blowing away in the distance. To cut to the chase, although he knew very well what he was supposed to do, he decided he had a better plan. He inflated a surface marker buoy and sent it to the surface so that we could find him. He had not secured the line properly, and it became unattached--that was the marker we had seen blowing away in the distance. What if his plan had worked? We would have gone down to find him, at which point we would have had to go back to the surface to empty the marker and continue the dive. Once he realized his marker buoy plan had failed, he came up with another one--he took a reverse heading on his computer and went back to shore. We were in a state of total concern (OK, now what do we do?) and were beginning to make a rescue plan when we realized he was on shore. The moral of the story is this: the standard lost buddy procedure has already been determined to be the best way to do it, so it is unlikely that anything you come up with while under water will be an improvement.
 
I would blow off deco stops to save my buddies life.

So what are you talking about here ... deco stops or safety stops? One is mandatory, the other optional.
 
Here is another vote for "it depends" and "you and your buddy should have discussed this."

Here are some factors to consider.

Under normal conditions, at 18 minutes/60 feet, a safety stop is considered completely optional until you have been under water for 49 minutes. Even if you have very good control of your breathing, if you are using an AL 80, you and your buddy will have been back on the boat rehydrating by then. We must therefore assume that your lost buddy incident happened much earlier than that. How much earlier? Well, if it happened two minutes after descending, I hope we can all agree that a safety stop would be silly. The closer you get to the 49 minute mark, the less silly it becomes. That's one aspect of the "it depends" part.

Couldn't agree more. Close to the NDL I would probably do an abreviated stop maybe 1 minute. Although that depends on all of those other "it depends". Anything other than close to NDL, blow the safety stop.

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Blowing deco stops is another issue altogether. They are obligatory and you are taking too much DCS risk for a situation that at this point you don't even know if its an emergency or merely a oops we screwed up and meet at the surface.
 

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