Tortured double hoses
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AfterDark
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They don't make gear or men like that anymore.
DrunkenParrot
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Damn, I thought I was hard on mine....
sealark
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I remember that back in 1966 during Navy Diving School in DC.
Hey, it's just a Nemrod Snark III Silver being abused in the pool. They were made until 1998, and can still be found regularly on the BAY. Good regulator the Snark.
Airleron
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That is the training video of Class 224, 1990ish, that we play in the National Navy UDT-SEAL Museum where I work. It gives you a taste of a BUD/S class, and usually most of the museum visitors stand around and watch it a few times through. They are incredibly hard on their equipment which is why they used anything available, DAs, Snarks, whatever had parts.
This training (with double hose regs) was done to prep them for closed circuit diving.
This training (with double hose regs) was done to prep them for closed circuit diving.
Something else along these lines, with Snarks and all (if the same as what what shown on T.V.):
Amazon.com: Navy Seals Buds Class 234 Discovery Channel: Gordon Forbes, Sean Gallagher, Kate Flemming: Movies & TV
Amazon.com: Navy Seals Buds Class 234 Discovery Channel: Gordon Forbes, Sean Gallagher, Kate Flemming: Movies & TV
Ahh, harassment training… I miss the old days of scuba training.
AFAIK this was also typical training on many civilian classes; at least it was on my class. Then again, maybe it had a bit to do with my instructor (Harry Hauck) being and ex-UDT trainer.
As a kid, being very comfortable in the water, this kind of training was a lot fun. We also did other fun training, like covering the inside of our mask with aluminum foil and find our way around the pool and try to orient ourselves by sound (not very effective).
Another fun game was putting four tanks with regulators on the four corners of the pool and playing musical chairs with four divers. We all had to coordinate together so we all move to the next station at the same time, or someone was going to be without a rig.
When I did my training we were using single hose regulators. The instructor (or assistant instructors) would wrap the hose on the back, but no actual damage was done by making it too tight.
Well, there was one tike that I witness another assistant instructor not only turn off the air of a student, but also loosen up the yoke… that was not a good idea since the regulator flooded.
AFAIK this was also typical training on many civilian classes; at least it was on my class. Then again, maybe it had a bit to do with my instructor (Harry Hauck) being and ex-UDT trainer.
As a kid, being very comfortable in the water, this kind of training was a lot fun. We also did other fun training, like covering the inside of our mask with aluminum foil and find our way around the pool and try to orient ourselves by sound (not very effective).
Another fun game was putting four tanks with regulators on the four corners of the pool and playing musical chairs with four divers. We all had to coordinate together so we all move to the next station at the same time, or someone was going to be without a rig.
When I did my training we were using single hose regulators. The instructor (or assistant instructors) would wrap the hose on the back, but no actual damage was done by making it too tight.
Well, there was one tike that I witness another assistant instructor not only turn off the air of a student, but also loosen up the yoke… that was not a good idea since the regulator flooded.
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That pretty much describes my scuba training in '69. All of the gear was at the bottom of the pool and you jumped in, turned on the air, cleared the regulator, put on your mask and weight belt, cleared your mask, put on the tank....
When we did the foil inside the mask thing the instructor did fun things like shutting off your air or yanking the regulator out of your mouth. In my class I don't recall anyone who was not able to recover their second stage or turn their air back on while they were blind. If anyone had their regulator (single hose) wrapped around their valve nobody saw it
I remember there was one kid who's money was refunded early on because he didn't know how to swim! Maybe he thought that was going to be part of the course. Too much TV and not enough real life I think.
People may laugh at the "old school" instruction but hey, we are all still here to talk about it so it must have worked
When we did the foil inside the mask thing the instructor did fun things like shutting off your air or yanking the regulator out of your mouth. In my class I don't recall anyone who was not able to recover their second stage or turn their air back on while they were blind. If anyone had their regulator (single hose) wrapped around their valve nobody saw it
I remember there was one kid who's money was refunded early on because he didn't know how to swim! Maybe he thought that was going to be part of the course. Too much TV and not enough real life I think.
People may laugh at the "old school" instruction but hey, we are all still here to talk about it so it must have worked
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Eric Sedletzky
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I never had harrasment training, I got into scuba too late.
But I can see it's worth especially in environments such as being side swiped by a very large bull sea lion mugging you for fish on your stringer, or some OOA diver on a cattle boat that comes at you from some angle unseen by you and thrashes you for your reg, ripping your mask off and getting you in a head lock while they are at it. That's what big dive knives are for, fending them off! (actually there's a thread going on about that right now over in Advanced Scuba Discussions entitled "Why the hatred towards air2's", or something to that effect.)
Seeing that video made me think of how much fun you could have tying up a diver who uses a 7' hose.
Come up from behind, grab the reg out of their mouth, pull it around and tie their neck to the manifold and wrap it around a few times and loop the reg under the hose somewhere behind the tanks.
Yikes! all of a sudden a long hose configuration doesn't look so good where there might be enemy divers lurking.
But I can see it's worth especially in environments such as being side swiped by a very large bull sea lion mugging you for fish on your stringer, or some OOA diver on a cattle boat that comes at you from some angle unseen by you and thrashes you for your reg, ripping your mask off and getting you in a head lock while they are at it. That's what big dive knives are for, fending them off! (actually there's a thread going on about that right now over in Advanced Scuba Discussions entitled "Why the hatred towards air2's", or something to that effect.)
Seeing that video made me think of how much fun you could have tying up a diver who uses a 7' hose.
Come up from behind, grab the reg out of their mouth, pull it around and tie their neck to the manifold and wrap it around a few times and loop the reg under the hose somewhere behind the tanks.
Yikes! all of a sudden a long hose configuration doesn't look so good where there might be enemy divers lurking.
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