Near miss diving doubles for 2nd time

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I have gotten a lot out of reading about incidents from others in the past on this board, in addition to reading books like "Diver Down". I had hoped not to ever have occasion to post here, but ce la vie, $&#& happens.

Over the weekend I was doing my first technical diving course. This was my first time diving doubles (bp/w/dir setup) on a rented rig (I had taken it to the pool once a couple days before). All of our dives were at a quarry with max depth around 300 ft.

The first day we hung out around 30ft and did some skills, including isolation drills with our doubles, ooa diver drills (reg sharing), flooded mask swims, etc. During these drills I made a number of changes to my setup, including renting a pair of ankle weights, as my rig was very heavy and my attitude in the water was for my feet to float up above my tanks. By the end of the day I felt pretty comfortable with the rig in the water, with the one exception of not being able to reach my bottom dump valve because it was being covered by my deco bottle (and the string to the dump valve had been cut short...I guess to prevent entanglement issues).

The next dive was going to be our first to depth, around 90ft max. We made our pre dive plan, which included doing isolation drills at the bottom of the line, followed by practice doing deco stops from depth on the way back.

We descended the line, and at around 40 ft I started to feel the thermocline. By the time I reached 75 ft, I was starting to feel extremely cold, and was questioning whether my rented wetsuit was thick enough for conditions (5/7 mil wetsuit in 39F water). The cold made me hyperventilate slightly, and I slowed down my descent to recover. When I reached 90 ft on the line, I was breathing rather rapidly due to the cold, and when asked for an ok from the instructor, I signaled I needed a minute. I slowed my breathing and recovered my composure, and then gave the ok.The instructor went away from the line to see to the other students, and I stuck on the line for a bit because I was feeling too negatively buoyant. I slowly added air to my wing, but it didn't really seem like anything was happening. When the instructor asked for an ok again, I signaled that I wasn't sure about my wing inflation , and the instructor came over and added a bunch of air to my wing and got me to neutral buoyancy.

At this point I left the line and watched the instructor doing isolation drills with one of the students. As I was floating neutral watching the drills, I realized that my core and extremities were very cold, and my breathing was restricted as a result. Even at rest, I was having a difficult time taking slow controlled breaths. My mask was also flooding intermittently, which wasn't helping with my thermal issues. I signaled to another student that I was having issues, and gave the sign that I wanted to ascend. I then went over the the instructor and did the same. He signaled to wait, as a student was in the middle of an isolation drill. I hung and waited for the drill to finish, which took a minute or two. At this point, the instructor signaled that it was time to go, and I signaled that I could no longer see the downline, which I assumed we would be using to ascend. The instructor pointed in a direction away from the line, for us to follow an incline towards shallower depths. Given my issues, I would have preferred to ascend up the line, but I decided to follow the instructor without objection.

After ascending upward about 20ft, I started becoming extremely positively buoyant, as all the air that was dumped into my wing at depth began to expand (I was extremely negative at 90). The result was that I started accelerating upwards very rapidly. I tried using my wing dump valve to release air, but it did not seem to be working ( it is likely I didn't have the correct orientation for the dump valve to purge properly... I was facing pretty straight up due to the ankle weights). At the same time, I was rapidly accelerating towards the surface. I realized the if I wasn't able to get my dump to work in 5 seconds or so, I was going to rocket to the surface uncontrollably. I decided to flip head down and swim for the bottom, to arrest my ascent and hopefully get to a depth where the air in the wing would recompress and I could control my buoyancy.

Upon flipping, enough pressure went to the bottom dump (the one I couldn't reach) that I felt some air release out the back of the wing, and I was able to make downward progress. However, upon flipping over and kicking downwards my mask flooded, and I lost one fin. At this point I was fully hyperventilating and working very hard to keep from aspirating water through my nose. I was more or less singly focused on swimming downward to a depth where I could stop my ascent and attempt to correct my numerous other issues.

My instructor caught me around 60 feet, and signaled me for an ok (I didn't see this at the time). I couldn't see anything through my mask, and latched onto him to attempt to stabilize myself and regain breath control; I was more of less fully panicked at this point. Because of my lack of response, he concluded that it would be best to reconnect my inflator hose (apparently it had become undone in the chaos), and inflate my wing to send me to the surface. I was unaware that he was doing this, but did feel myself ascending and was now focused fully on continuing to breathe (the hyperventilation gave me the sensation that I was not getting enough air). I had a tight grip on the instructor, so we both headed to the surface.

We reached the surface, and the instructor asked if I had continued to breathe out during the ascent, to check for possible embolism. I responded that I had been hyperventilating during the ascent (but had not held my breath).

I then went on 50% O2 for 10 minutes. I didn't feel any signs of embolism or DCS.

I will post later with my lessons learned from this experience, in addition to a few more specific details on what happened (from computer download.... Currently some of this info is reconstructed from info gleaned from instructor, in addition to my own very imperfect recollection. The actual depths at which some of this took place can be filled in when I DL from my computer, in addition to ascent rate specifics, etc).

In the meantime, would be interested in thoughts from the board. I made a number of very serious mistakes on this dive that brought me as close as I've ever come to ending up another quarry statistic. I think given the two fresh postings of quarry accidents on this board (with one confirmed fatality) on the exact same day that this happened (oct 2) make it very I important that these incidents be analyzed for lessons learned.
 
I am not an expert. However my first thing would be that you had inadequate thermal protection. That temperature calls for drysuit in my opinion. The rest followed from there.
 
I am not an expert. However my first thing would be that you had inadequate thermal protection. That temperature calls for drysuit in my opinion. The rest followed from there.

I concur. Also, it appears there is a big failure of the team here.


All the best, James
 
You're to be commended for posting here. It takes a lot of nerve to put one's own actions out in the world for critique.

My first thought is that it seems you had a lot of new things going on with this dive. It sounds like the stage bottle was new to you, which makes it strange that an instructor would add a stage at the same time as doubles.

It's easy to play "blame the instructor," but I'm having a hard time not doing it in this case. He apparently put you in doubles and a stage for the first time in rented equipment with a 300' bottom, in extremely marginal exposure protection (my limit with a full 7mm that fits me like a glove is about 45F, and it *definitely* affects my performance). He left you alone on the line after you'd indicated you weren't comfortable? Then he ignored the most basic rule, that a thumbs-up is a command, not a request? Then he elevatored you to the surface by throwing a whole bunch of air in your BC without asking?

Harumph.
 
I find it hard to believe that instructor did that....
really??
put the inflator back on and put air in your bc to create a rapid accent?

Holy @&*^ing *^%^!
 
wait a minute though... did you mean 30ft for the max depth OR that the quarry was 300 ft at its deepest point. (i'm not going to entertain the thought of you GOING to 300ft).

also.. tell us more about how your pool experience was so that we understand the full situation.
 
What kind of tanks and how much lead? You mention feeling very heavy on the bottom. A drysuit would have kept you warmer, and you wouldn't have been dealing with the buoyancy loss caused by that thick neoprene compressing at depth. Doubles tend to put people head heavy to start, but loosening your harness, tightening the crotch strap, and adding a tail weight might be more efficient and less tiring than ankle weights. What's the course you're taking?
 
WOW! I just want to say thank you for your post. I have to say that after reading many threads on the forums that implicate bad instruction, I am grateful that I have not had such experiences.

I couple of questions come to mind for me: 1) Was there only the instructor and no other experienced diver/s? 2) How many students were there in the group? 3) Did the instructor warn the group of the cold temperatures? 4) Had you done other dives in the area before using the bp/w setup to acclimatize?

These types of situations have given me the knowledge that I have to be very proactive in my diving. Ask a lot of questions, don't rely on instructors, and call a dive if I am not comfortable.
 
First dive in doubles:

Doubles + deco bottle + wetsuit in a cold quarry. Wow!

Second Dive in doubles:

Doubles + Deco bottle + wetsuit + ankle weights in a cold 300 ft deep quarry, descend to 90 and do valve drills! Double Wow!

This is going to sound harsh, but you need more than a drysuit. You need to look around for qualified instruction. Have you spoken with any of your current instructors previous students? I'd suggest you do that.

Put the doubles away for a while and work on a Drysuit. What's the point of carrying more gas than you can use due to lack of thermal protection?

When you are ready to try doubles again:

5-10 (or more) dives in just your doubles, with lots of skills practice shallow, maybe 30 ft max. These dives are *NOT* wasted time, there's plenty to work on, i.e. weighting, buoyancy and trim, propulsion etc.

Get used to being in the water for 90~120 minutes. This is a big deal, task specific endurance and tolerance / adequate preparation for the cold. You don't want to discover you are tired or cold when you have an obligation.

Add gear sloooowly. Get comfortable with each addition before adding more.

Good luck,

Tobin
 
What kind of tanks and how much lead? You mention feeling very heavy on the bottom. A drysuit would have kept you warmer, and you wouldn't have been dealing with the buoyancy loss caused by that thick neoprene compressing at depth. Doubles tend to put people head heavy to start, but loosening your harness, tightening the crotch strap, and adding a tail weight might be more efficient and less tiring than ankle weights. What's the course you're taking?

I agree with this.

I think it might be a good idea to get back in the pool or stay shallow and practice your buoyancy in very shallow water preferably warm water. Maybe without the stage bottle.
What did your instructor say about your performance and how you should be positioned in the water.
When you said you went on 50 percent for 10 minutes was this above the surface? the way you mentioned it, it sounded like you went on it after you surfaced. You didn't go into deco did you?
 
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