DiveRite Transpac + Deep Sea Supply Wing?

[ronscuba]

When I travel I like to have a plate, harness & wing, etc. A useable set up is what I was referring to when I said a Kydex plate is lighter & an SS DSS plate isn't much heavier. If you want to go on a dive trip with only the cloth plate......

I don't know about anyone else in this discussion, but I own/ed all of the gear I'v talked about, & used them all for years in various applications before settling on what I use today.

My apologies if I misread your post or Matt's.

I thought it was stated the kydex plate is a lot lighter than the Transpac.

The weight of just a kydex plate and the weight of the complete Transpac rig including it's wing, clamps, rings, padding etc.. Yeah the kydex plate is a lot lighter than the whole Transpac rig.

My post was clarifying that if you compare the weight of just the Transpac softplate to kydex plate they are similar.

The weight of the complete rig should also be similar since d-rings, wing, clamps, etc. weigh the same.

I own a Transpac and just got an aluminum BPW.

 

[halocline]

I'd bet anything that the kydex plate with a hog harness weighs considerably less than the transpac with it's padding and hardware. Plus, it's extremely compact.

I agree that too much is made of 'lightweight' dive gear these days. It's not like you're lugging the stuff up a mountain.

I have a good friend/dive buddy that travels with his DSS steel plate all the time. I don't think he's ever paid extra baggage fees, and I have not while traveling with my steel plate. But, the OP was specifically interested in a lightweight rig, so that's where the discussion went.

 

[SangP]

Wow,

Lots of advice on DSS gear from folks that apparently don't know much about DSS gear.

DSS wing and plates, when used together offer advantages that are lost if DSS wings are used on 3rd party plates or DSS plates are used with 3rd party wings.

DSS singles wings, when used with DSS plates do not require a STA, and assemble / disassemble in seconds with no loose parts.

https://www.deepseasupply.com/templates/mountwing.html

When using a DSS wing on most 3rd party plates a STA is required. This adds cost and weight, and because disassembly is more involved most leave their wing bolted to their plate via the STA. This increases chances of wing damage during transport.

Tobin

Oh please what garbage, I have a friend who dives with a dss and I have used it on numerous occasion.

A couple of rubber grommets/inserts doesn't make a system that much better over another. The "most" that you are referring to are those too lazy to take care of their gear, now how difficult is it to undo 2 wing nuts.

I have been using a Haycon rig for years before moving onto a oxycheq, a pair of mini sta doesn't make it any more difficult to use or troublesome than any other piece of dive gear.

SangP

 

[fnfalman]

now how difficult is it to undo 2 wing nuts.
SangP

I just took my Dive Rite Transplate with SS plate on a quickie trip to SoCal. I had to undo the two wing nuts to disconnect the STA so that I can pack the wing separately.

It was a brutal 1-minute for disconnecting and another brutal 1-minute for reconnecting. I don't think that I can handle that much hardship again. Gonna have to take the Transpac instead for next time. That way I only have to pull the cam straps off in order to remove the wing.

 

[Scott L]

Oh please what garbage, I have a friend who dives with a dss and I have used it on numerous occasion.

A couple of rubber grommets/inserts doesn't make a system that much better over another. The "most" that you are referring to are those too lazy to take care of their gear, now how difficult is it to undo 2 wing nuts.

I have been using a Haycon rig for years before moving onto a oxycheq, a pair of mini sta doesn't make it any more difficult to use or troublesome than any other piece of dive gear.

SangP

It is very irresponsible to recomend defying a manufacturer's recommendation of their products. Especially considering that Tobin personally engineers and manufactures his equipment line...

 

[SangP]

I just took my Dive Rite Transplate with SS plate on a quickie trip to SoCal. I had to undo the two wing nuts to disconnect the STA so that I can pack the wing separately.

It was a brutal 1-minute for disconnecting and another brutal 1-minute for reconnecting. I don't think that I can handle that much hardship again. Gonna have to take the Transpac instead for next time. That way I only have to pull the cam straps off in order to remove the wing.

LOL! Next time just cut the plate in half that way you can fold it up like a Calzone.

SangP

 

[SangP]

It is very irresponsible to defy a manufacturer's recommendation of their products. Especially considering that Tobin personally engineers and manufactures his equipment line...

Been hitting the kool aid again?

SangP

 

[WeldonDowd]

It is very irresponsible to recomend defying a manufacturer's recommendation of their products. Especially considering that Tobin personally engineers and manufactures his equipment line...

Haha, if everybody though like that we'd still be in the Stone Ages.

 

[cool_hardware52]

Oh please what garbage, I have a friend who dives with a dss and I have used it on numerous occasion.

A couple of rubber grommets/inserts doesn't make a system that much better over another. The "most" that you are referring to are those too lazy to take care of their gear, now how difficult is it to undo 2 wing nuts/QUOTE]

The fact remains that third party plates do not offer the same features and ease of use that aDSS wing and plate do.


Many divers using STA's seldom remove their wing, leading to a greater chance of wing damage.

Tobin

 

[SangP]

Oh please what garbage, I have a friend who dives with a dss and I have used it on numerous occasion.

A couple of rubber grommets/inserts doesn't make a system that much better over another. The "most" that you are referring to are those too lazy to take care of their gear, now how difficult is it to undo 2 wing nuts

The fact remains that third party plates do not offer the same features and ease of use that aDSS wing and plate do.


Many divers using STA's seldom remove their wing, leading to a greater chance of wing damage.

Tobin

It may be a feature but not a benefit.

I rather undo a pair of wing nuts than cam bands any day.

If you think that "most" people leave the wing on cus of the trouble of undoing some wing nuts, I'll bet those same pp will leave the wing on instead of undoing cam bands.

I can undo a pair of wing nuts n screw it back together faster than undoing a pair of cam bands. That's not including the trouble of readjusting the tank straps once undone.

SangP