hand assisted back kick?

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My husband found the best way to learn the back kick was to start in a pool, without any gear except a mask and snorkel. He had had some instruction on how the kick was done, and studied the videos. Then he got in the pool and tried to back kick. It didn't take very long to figure it out, and he swam laps backwards. Then he did the same thing with fins on, until he could swim laps backwards. Then he put on his gear and went diving, and presto! Back kick.

It took me about six months of practice before mine was that solid. I recommend the pool method.

I have to strongly agree with is. I took the fundies class last year. That is how we were show how to get the movements done. I walked away with the knowledge and info I was after. No I did not pass and knew in my own mind that I need more practise and my own equipment (tanks ) if I was to master the "Small things done precisely". I would recommend it to anyone.
 
Does someone have a good resource for learning to back kick? I can stop myself just fine, and inch backwards, but moving "pretty well" seems to elude me.

Theres a few good videos on youtube to give you a general idea. Then Just get into the pool or somewhere shallow and practice alot. It took me about an hour to figure the motion out. Once you get the feel for it it gets easy really fast. I dive SP Jets and it is erally easy to pick up speed. Not sure abot any other fins. As a starting mental picture...I guess dont try to pull your feet up into your hips. Its more of a side sweep.
 
It's pretty hard to learn the back kick from a video.

Key is to move slowly, there's no rush. Make sure you're trim side-to-side. If you're rolling to one side or the other while trying to back kick, the back kick will accentuate the roll. May sure your head is up during the entire kick. In double tanks your head should be resting back against the manifold. If your head is down when you kick, your feet will go up and your head down.

First the setup. Bring your feet up to your butt with the soles of your feet touching each other (or as close to that position as your anatomy can achieve) in a kind of frog-leg position. Slowly extended your feet/legs backwards, keeping your soles together and toes pointed backwards. This position gives you a pointed wedge to push backwards. This also has got to be done slowly and smoothly or it will just push your forwards. I find it helpful to get your legs fully extended before trying the next step. As you get better, it will become easier and easier to setup without pushing yourself forwards in the process. Move as slowly as it takes to extend your legs without pushing yourself forward.

Next, keeping your head up, roll your ankles outwards and sweep outwards and forward. The exact maneuver is hard to describe, but remember at this point you're trying to sweep your your fins forward so that you move backwards. Keep you head up when you sweep.

Once you get the hang of the basic back kick, there are a host of variations. You can do a modified back-kick from the modified flutter position to reduce silting. You can do a modified back-kick from the modified frog position, also to reduce silting. It doesn't have to be a full leg extension maneuver. But it's easier to learn the full leg extension first version first, and then move onto the other variations as you get more adept at the back kick. Some people even use the side of their fin for power instead of sweeping the blade of the fin.

You can try it with your hands just to get down the concept. Put your palms together and bring your hands back to your breast bone. Extend your arms straight out in front of your, palms together. This is the setup. Then sweep the back of your hands outward. Get the idea?

You can practice the back kick in the swimming pool, but I personally found this is a good way to practice but not a good way to learn. To really get the feel of the back kick you need to be sumberged, not on the surface. You also really need to be wearing fins in order to learn how to avoid pushing yourself forward during setup.
 
Like Lynne said, practice in a pool or a local dive site. Have someone videotape you to help you get a mental picture of the kick. Until you master it, there is no problem using your hands to get you out of a jam.
 
don't tell anyone but I'll use my hands if no one's looking.
 
Does someone have a good resource for learning to back kick? I can stop myself just fine, and inch backwards, but moving "pretty well" seems to elude me.

For me personally, it was not until my Fundies class when the instructor put me on a picnic table (on my stomach) with my fins on and manipulated my feet that I learned the muscle memory needed in my legs, ankle and feet to do the back kick in the water. The first few attempts in the water I was only able to stop but after a few more attempts I was able to stop and move backwards.

Some great advice on this thread already so all I can offer is if I ever run into you at a dive site, I'll put ya on a picnic table and manipulate your feet until you have the proper muscle memory. :)
 
I practice the basic movements, as described in other posts, in the gym lying prone on a big balance ball. There are mirrors on the wall, so I can keep an eye on my "trim" and look out for hip flexion.

Other members give me funny looks sometimes, but hey, that's the pricy you pay :)

Henrik
 
Henrik, I love you! I've been looking for ways to convey the muscle actions for proper horizontal trim to students . . . but I hadn't thought about putting them on an exercise ball. I have one. Peter's teaching a PPB class -- I'm going to have him try it. Thank you so much!
 
What about doing it squid style? Take the regulator out of the mouth and exhale hard to form a jet?

Shirley you jest? I was taught to take the octopus from where it is hidden inside my BCD's pocket, point the mouthpiece, and press the purge button. No need to remove the primary second stage from my mouth.

I also baby goat.
 
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