New diver has tech gear questions

[cool_hardware52]

Better bigger than too small. I would be less concerned about a diver having an 80 lb wing for a 55 lbs rig, than with someone having a 30 lb wing for a 40 lb rig.

Please tell me how you will arrive at a rig that is 55 lbs negative, ever.

If you can achieve this feat would you consider this rare and preposterously negative rig appropriate for a "intro to tech" diver?

Tobin

 

[nereas]

Please tell me how you will arrive at a rig that is 55 lbs negative, ever.

If you can achieve this feat would you consider this rare and preposterously negative rig appropriate for a "intro to tech" diver?

Tobin

Twin steel doubles for backgas with steel deco bottles. Easy.

I don't dive with steel deco bottles, but others do.

Lots of neoprene, as well, as in crushed neoprene, would do it too.

As well as lots of lead-acid lights.

I don't know why anyone would make an 80 lbs wing, but that's all I could imagine.

 

[cool_hardware52]

Twin steel doubles for backgas with steel deco bottles. Easy.

I don't dive with steel deco bottles, but others do.

Lots of neoprene, as well, as in crushed neoprene, would do it too.

As well as lots of lead-acid lights.

I don't know why anyone would make an 80 lbs wing, but that's all I could imagine.

So if we add up a bunch of bad ideas we can reach a rig that's -55 lbs?

It would appear that your solution to these compounded poor gear choices is a bigger wing.

Again, would you recommend this for our budding "intro to tech" candidate?

Tobin

 

[Jim Lapenta]

Hey it's his imagination, Tobin. Run with it Nereas. A mind is a terrible thing to waste. Keep exercising it. This could be good. I'll throw in a scooter made from a mark 48 torpedo and an imax camera with no inherent buoyancy devices. Now we're cookin! Anyone else? and not for our budding techieat least on the first dive or two. Maybe dive number three of his PADI Wingdiver Imax Surplus Torpedo Scooter Specialty!

 

[ScubaAndDreams]

Hey it's his imagination, Tobin. Run with it Nereas. A mind is a terrible thing to waste. Keep exercising it. This could be good. I'll throw in a scooter made from a mark 48 torpedo and an imax camera with no inherent buoyancy devices. Now we're cookin! Anyone else? and not for our budding techieat least on the first dive or two. Maybe dive number three of his PADI Wingdiver Imax Surplus Torpedo Scooter Specialty!

LOL

 

[battles2a5]

Twin steel doubles for backgas with steel deco bottles. Easy.

I don't dive with steel deco bottles, but others do.

Lots of neoprene, as well, as in crushed neoprene, would do it too.

As well as lots of lead-acid lights.

I don't know why anyone would make an 80 lbs wing, but that's all I could imagine.

Ahhh, nereas strikes again.

 

[nereas]

Hey it's his imagination, Tobin. Run with it Nereas. A mind is a terrible thing to waste. Keep exercising it. This could be good. I'll throw in a scooter made from a mark 48 torpedo and an imax camera with no inherent buoyancy devices. Now we're cookin! Anyone else? and not for our budding techieat least on the first dive or two. Maybe dive number three of his PADI Wingdiver Imax Surplus Torpedo Scooter Specialty!

How about, also, a heavy tool kit, for breaking into a shipwreck, to get down into the engine room?

Tobin surely knows of a fellow in his own neck of the woods who actually did that.

Unfortunately, the unlucky fellow, who did it, did not live through it. Even more sad, he was a techical diving instructor with a major agency. Ergo, he should have known better.

 

[nereas]

So if we add up a bunch of bad ideas we can reach a rig that's -55 lbs?

It would appear that your solution to these compounded poor gear choices is a bigger wing.

Again, would you recommend this for our budding "intro to tech" candidate?

Tobin

I would have recommended a 40 lbs wing for single-tank cold water diving, and a 50 lbs wing for twin-tank tech-deco diving. That is what I use.

I do not know why anyone would every need an 80 lbs wing.

But perhaps you were not paying attention? As, he already has his wing.

And even so, a bigger-than-needed wing is infinitely better than a smaller-than-needed one.

Therefore my recommendation, in this case, for his next purchase, was a Tobin backplate.

 

[cool_hardware52]

How about, also, a heavy tool kit, for breaking into a shipwreck, to get down into the engine room?

Tobin surely knows of a fellow in his own neck of the woods who actually did that.

Unfortunately, the unlucky fellow, who did it, did not live through it. Even more sad, he was a techical diving instructor with a major agency. Ergo, he should have known better.

Are you suggesting that our "intro to tech" candidate should be carrying a his roll -away tool box with him as he masters doubles?

Tobin

 

[cool_hardware52]

I would have recommended a 40 lbs wing for single-tank cold water diving, and a 50 lbs wing for twin-tank tech-deco diving. That is what I use.

I would base the wing requirements on the buoyancy of the diver's exposure suit, and the volume of the cylinders to be used. It appears our OP currently does not posses either of these elements.

But perhaps you were not paying attention? As, he already has his wing.

I'm fully aware that the OP currently owns a wing, an inappropriate wing IMO. That's why I suggested.

My suggestion is to stop buying gear, and find an instructor / mentors first.

In my first post.

Tobin