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After all the lectures about oxygen toxicity in my advanced nitrox class, I'm wondering if anyone here has actually had oxygen toxicity.

I've had a pO2 of 1.6 on sufaded with no symptoms. Also, I remember seeing a picture of a guy in the early days of diving (1940's or so) where he went to around 70 feet on an O2 rebreather and lived.

So has anyone experienced this?
 
There are numerous reports of deaths from O2 toxicity. Search on SB, for example.
If you are looking for first-hand reports......forget it.
 
There are factors beyond just PPO2 that play into whether you exhibit CNS O2 toxicity such as workload, environment and individual body physiology.

For example, hyperbaric chamber patients are routinely exposed to PPO2 exceeding 1.6.

However, sticking to a PPO2 limit of 1.4 for the working portion of a dive and 1.6 for deco is a safe guardrail for most people, most of the time.

The reason we don’t test our personal and situational limits for maximum PPO2 is because the consequences are so dire.
 
Spending an hr on an O2 rebreather once I stood with difficulty in the shallows felt weak and walking was a chore

but maybe that was AGE

so the rebreather hanging from my chest I think the thing weighed 16kg and I also had a few kgs on my back too

and only a 3mm wetsuit
 
I don't know how many people who have experienced O2 seizures are around to talk about it.

This

If you experience seizures, you likely won't come back from the dive alive. So you won't find people who are both alive and able to speak about it.

I heard stories, and they are believable. Extremely rare to he fair - still, not worth trying

PS oxygen doesn't become toxic at 1.6. toxicity is a mix of exposure time, phisiological factors and exposure time. Statistically speaking, if you are exposed for 30min to ppO2 of 1.6bar you are NOT likely to develop symptoms, which is why 1.6 is considered the limit. But you can be exposed for shorter time to higher ppO2 and be still safe. However, the discussion can quickly become complex. If you don't know what you are doing, just stay away from it, far away
 
After all the lectures about oxygen toxicity in my advanced nitrox class, I'm wondering if anyone here has actually had oxygen toxicity.

I've had a pO2 of 1.6 on sufaded with no symptoms. Also, I remember seeing a picture of a guy in the early days of diving (1940's or so) where he went to around 70 feet on an O2 rebreather and lived.

So has anyone experienced this?
Good Day,
I have never personally experienced many symptoms of pulmonary or CNS toxicity . I routinely endure Po2 in the range of 2.4-3.0 for 15 minutes to 1.5 hours in durations for work. If I am doing back to back long exposures I get some vision changes which is expected form either the oxygen and the pressure.

I have seen and taken care of about 24 seizures related to high dose short term exposure (CNS) po2 2.4 Plus . CNS prodromal symptoms are very different compared to Pulmonary Oxygen Toxicity presentations . Probably the worse one had been a person that went from a seizure to respiratory arrest prompting me to need to use and adjuctant airway and bag him until I could get him locked out. We use the pneumonic VENTID to remember symptom manifestations or clusters. We usually rule out low blood glucose as well when dealing with suspected oxygen issues

Pulmonary Oxygen Toxicity(low dose long term) is a little different we see some of this but very little , we see a reduction in vital capacity in the lungs and ARDS. If they are conscious they often complain of substernal pain after a cardiac rule out.

From medication, to body temperature and general health will lower you threshold for seizure activity, conservative is still best.
After all unless you are in FFM or habitat or chamber it is usually fatal in the water.......
 
After all the lectures about oxygen toxicity in my advanced nitrox class, I'm wondering if anyone here has actually had oxygen toxicity.

I've had a pO2 of 1.6 on sufaded with no symptoms. Also, I remember seeing a picture of a guy in the early days of diving (1940's or so) where he went to around 70 feet on an O2 rebreather and lived.

So has anyone experienced this?
Friend and former dive buddy toxed years ago in the Wakulla basin (i think) during a big FL project dive. Was rescued by other safety divers and survived.

I have had mild pulmonary symptoms myself. And vision changes that resolved after about 48 hrs surface interval.
 
Also, I remember seeing a picture of a guy in the early days of diving (1940's or so) where he went to around 70 feet on an O2 rebreather and lived.
I really like the way you described this by saying on an oxygen rebreather at 70FSW
( And not on oxygen at 70FSW as there is a huge difference I will detail later)

Back in my youth and diver training we did what is described as an oxygen tolerance test it was standard procedure 60 FSW in the chamber breathing oxygen from the built in breathing masks (BIBS) for 30 mins
The other test was a 165 FSW dry dive in the chamber on air. If you passed that and the medical and could count to ten and remember your name you passed and proceeded with the 12 week divers course.

Laughing your head off when narked off your head when the instructor told us all not to fart when arriving at 165 foot was apparently not reason enough to kick us all off the course. That occurred six weeks into the course after a week end break from the 7 days a week training and before we started on the underwater explosives part. At which time six out of the twelve men on the course were NRB (not required back)

Now the Royal Navy has a multi purpose semi closed circuit rebreather called the Clearance Divers Breathing Apparatus CDBA that you configured 4 ways
1. Pure oxygen in a closed circuit mode shallow
2. 60/40% mix in a semi closed mode
3. 40/60% mix
4. 32.5% mix for 180 FSW

Prior to that our oxygen fully closed circuit rebreathers could be operated for special operations deeper by not performing a procedure know as going on the bag.
In normal operations you would fill the bag with pure oxygen twice each time breathing down the bag content and breathing out through your nose. This ensured that little or no residual nitrogen was in your lungs and little to no air was left in the bag. You're now on pure oxygen and metabolically each breath would consume around 3% oxygen of your total tidal lung volume and you would produce the same 3% of Co2 by volume. The Co2 would be absorbed by the chemical soda lime and the bag volume would decrease by the loss of the O2 metabolically together with the absorption into the chemical of the produced Co2 When the bag collapsed or the inherent buoyancy changed you could re inflate the bag manually or allow the flow frit a ruby jewelled disc with a small hole in it to bleed into the bag and compensate for the metabolic consumption known as a jewelled jet. Same today with the current Draeger LAR systems and others.

Now for special operations you knew your residual tidal volume lung capacity and the bag volume so could calculate a fag packet sketch outline of what in effect was an oxygen content for say 50/50 and by not ventilating out the air your lung volume you had an easy made reduced oxygen concentration with the inert N2 loading being the only thing to be aware of was if you allowed the bag to start to collapse as the 02 loading decreased over time/exertion while the N2 volume loading in the bag remained the same while consideration that an pure oxygen gas flush may spike your PPo2 at depth to a dangerous level if you lost the nitrogen loading you had carefully manufactured topside.

Like wise on accent it was not a required standard procedure to vent the bag and flush for fear of a O2 hit a depth.

Put it shorter your original 1940's diver wasn't on pure oxygen at 70FSW but had a good dose of nitrogen in the bag for inserting protection. A special operations procedure not to be recommended or practiced and it was not until years later that a PP02 PPCo2 detector was perfected for oxygen diving and while it was shown here on scuba board some years back it was removed together with the photos I submitted for reasons best left unstated.

If I find them again I will give it another go. I had a post removed a couple of days ago about Italian navy divers and a current commercial salvage attempt. Can't for the life of me think why. Payback can be a tad troublesome. ROFL :stirpot:
 
I an provide details of several oxygen toxicity fatalities, but all of the are on technical divers. I do not know of a case of anyone known to be have gotten oxygen toxicity on NDL dives. By the phrase "known to have gotten oxygen toxicity," I mean that a surprising percentage of diving fatalities include people who died alone with no clear cause of death. According to an old DAN article, that includes the cases of people who might have had oxygen toxicity on dives while using Sudafed but with no clear indication of a cause of death.
 

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