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Old February 24th, 2008, 09:09 PM   #11
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From the look of their itineraries, bull sharks aren't the focus of their dives.

I wonder what went on down there? Shark attacks on submerged divers are so rare that yes, this is a big story.
I was taught in high school journalism that the first paragraph should cover Who, What, Where, When, How and maybe Why - and the headline should be written from that lead paragraph. Looks like they teach something else now. Some headlines mention a "shark diver" but the story does not.

If it was a fed dive, then sharks in the area would have been excited by the feeding. We can only speculate at this point how a diver who is supposed to be kneeling on the bottom as in my first pic about could have been bitten in the leg?
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Call me a wimp, but I wouldn't want to dive an area known for Bull & Tiger sharks, never mind an active feeding. These sharks have a reputation for being a lot more aggressive than Caribbean Reef sharks. Having seen numerous videos of feeds in Bahamas/Florida with Bulls & Tigers, I think the reputation is warranted. Divers being bumped, cameras being used to fend off sharks, night dives with Tiger sharks, etc.. Definitely not for me and way more dangerous than the Caribbean Reef shark feed I went on in Roatan.

Hopefully the person involved is OK and will not have any permanent damage.
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Not much info given in this report either: cbs4.com - Diver Bitten By Shark Off Ft. Lauderdale
Where there are sharks, there are always possibilities of attacks...our son was lead DM/instructor for the week on this one long ago.......4' reef shark btw....

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We can only speculate at this point how a diver who is supposed to be kneeling on the bottom as in my first pic about could have been bitten in the leg?
Not all shark feeds require the diver to remain kneeling on the bottom while it is going on.

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If it was a fed dive, then sharks in the area would have been excited by the feeding. We can only speculate at this point how a diver who is supposed to be kneeling on the bottom as in my first pic about could have been bitten in the leg?
We should not be speculating about anything. Speculation is far too common in dive accidents, we need to wait until the facts come out to analyze this incident. Now is no time for speculation. Let's just hope the diver has a full recovery at this point in time.
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Not all shark feeds require the diver to remain kneeling on the bottom while it is going on.

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ditto.......... having friends who have done the Shearwater trips, they do NOT do the typical shark feed. It is a full week of chumming the water and divers getting in and out of the boat as the sharks show up. They do one dive at "tiger beach" where they have good luck bringing in tiger sharks. The main reason people do this trip is for photography of sharks. No one is in a circle knealing in the sand. All divers are swimming around shooting photos and videos. I have seen lots of photos where the sharks are actually bumping or mouthing cameras. These aren't little sharks either. Don't get me wrong, I would love to do this trip. I love sharks. But all things considered, there are going to be "incidents" where someone does get hurt.

I am looking forward to hearing details of what actually happened.

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You don't see the DEP or any other wildlife service promoting the feeding of bears, alligators, crocs etc so why feed sharks...any where. People + food = food. I know science isn't strong in Florida's curriculum but doesn't anyone remember Ivan Pavlov?
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You don't see the DEP or any other wildlife service promoting the feeding of bears, alligators, crocs etc so why feed sharks...any where. People + food = food. I know science isn't strong in Florida's curriculum but doesn't anyone remember Ivan Pavlov?
as far as I have heard, the Shearwater does not "feed", they chum the water bringing the sharks in. Not that it is any better, but the sharks aren't being fed, per say.

I have been on a shark feed, wasn't impressed, I liked the sharks swimming around free and not spun up by the food. I was interesting to watch their behavior to see how much they change when food is introduced, so I am glad I did it once.

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We should not be speculating about anything. Speculation is far too common in dive accidents, we need to wait until the facts come out to analyze this incident. Now is no time for speculation. Let's just hope the diver has a full recovery at this point in time.
Yeah, we hear that argument on this forum, except - we seldom get the facts. Providers and foreign governments don't like to release them - bad for business. Not trying to convict anyone here, just uncover what we can to learn from the accident. Seems to have helped already...
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ditto.......... having friends who have done the Shearwater trips, they do NOT do the typical shark feed. It is a full week of chumming the water and divers getting in and out of the boat as the sharks show up. They do one dive at "tiger beach" where they have good luck bringing in tiger sharks. The main reason people do this trip is for photography of sharks. No one is in a circle knealing in the sand. All divers are swimming around shooting photos and videos. I have seen lots of photos where the sharks are actually bumping or mouthing cameras. These aren't little sharks either. Don't get me wrong, I would love to do this trip. I love sharks. But all things considered, there are going to be "incidents" where someone does get hurt.

I am looking forward to hearing details of what actually happened.

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You don't see the DEP or any other wildlife service promoting the feeding of bears, alligators, crocs etc so why feed sharks...any where. People + food = food. I know science isn't strong in Florida's curriculum but doesn't anyone remember Ivan Pavlov?
The state of Florida banned feeding sharks and other fishes some years ago...
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Yeah, we hear that argument on this forum, except - we seldom get the facts. Providers and foreign governments don't like to release them - bad for business. Not trying to convict anyone here, just uncover what we can to learn from the accident. Seems to have helped already...
So your argument is because we "seldom get the facts" it's o.k. to speculate? You can't possibly be serious. I'm also curious to know how your speculation, or any speculation for that manner has "helped".
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